Hiring a manager

susanlatte · 07-14-2004, 01:17 PM

Ok...got a question.

when do you make the decision as an owner to hire a manager? Has anyone here done this in the past gone from working as an owner/manager to working along side of your manager.

I am in a quandry. I need to get my marketing, sales, adertising, remodel and a whole host of other things done. In order to make my salon a success and just can't squeeze this work into my day.

I did read a recent article in i think it was Looking Fit or Todays image on hiring a manager. ONe of the several reasons to hire a manager is similar to what I am facing.

some feed back please.

top250tansyou · 07-14-2004, 05:53 PM

As a mnager I dont want to work along side of you. I want to run the show. Leave me alone and let me do my thing.

West Side Tanner · 07-14-2004, 06:08 PM

I'll agree. It would be very hard working side by side with the owner, what then would be the purpose of a manager. It would be imitating.

susanlatte · 07-14-2004, 06:28 PM

Has any OWNER done this in the past is really what I want to know...

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laurajmaxx · 07-14-2004, 07:56 PM

Perhaps hiring an Assistant to do various &/or specific things for X anount of hours per week including floor time Vs.the term Manager... Do you have a traing concept set up? Write a list of what you really want them to do & go from there.

susanlatte · 07-14-2004, 08:10 PM

Laurajmaxx,

Actually that has already been done. Thanks for the advice.We already have the manager list of duties.
Really it is trying to deterimine when does it become necessary to hire a manager to run the day to day business and let the owner do the duties that the owner needs to do.

laurajmaxx · 07-14-2004, 10:21 PM

Perhaps when you feel that the "day to day" duties are stopping you from "owner duties" is a good time. I have 2 stores w/ 30 units total & renters too. Quite small compared to many here. I felt overwhelmed trying to do it all, predict it all...Family ,friends ect. 2 yrs ago I hired an "assistant" whos actual job discription was to float from store to store and learn/do various things from bed cleaning to lamps changes to covering floor time to stocking retail & various other stuff.. He loves the flexability & various duties he does . He has plenty of flex w/ his time. He feels involved & learns & applies daily. He has evolved into someone who I count on alot, pay well & am thankful for. He is not a manager. I am that. His job is to enable me do my job better. Although I did train him myself for about 4 mths about our industry(ever changing, then busy then slow.ect.) & to be more self thinking & use his time well. Get the things done & done well. Raises came with preformance & responsibilites taken on. This worked for me. But mabie not for others. Good luck. keep us posted!

top250tansyou · 07-14-2004, 10:51 PM

I only see my boss half a dozen times a year. I talk with him on the phone a couple times a month. I take all of our deposits slips and paper work to his accountant he uses here in town. I handle everything else. If I have a big purchase to make or a large estimate on air, or computer work I clear it with him. He does decide on all equipment. I dont mind him in the salon (its his) but it puts on on pins and needles. I think this sums it up best a few years back he said something like this "I would do that differently - but im not the manager". Thats a nice way of getting me to do something the way he wanted it done but kind of still letting it be my salon. I apprectiated that very much.

laurajmaxx · 07-15-2004, 02:17 PM

top 250...Why does the owners persence put you on "pins/needles"? Do you decide the future direction of his store? It sound like a very uninvolved owner. As an owner who is constantly looking to grow & direct/create my own future I am just curious.

susanlatte · 07-15-2004, 04:08 PM

Thanks!

I appreciate your positive feedback Laura.

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07-14-2004, 01:17 PM	#1 (permalink)
susanlatte Waiting Confirmation Join Date: Sep 1 2003 Posts: 231 Rep Power: 0	Ok...got a question. when do you make the decision as an owner to hire a manager? Has anyone here done this in the past gone from working as an owner/manager to working along side of your manager. I am in a quandry. I need to get my marketing, sales, adertising, remodel and a whole host of other things done. In order to make my salon a success and just can't squeeze this work into my day. I did read a recent article in i think it was Looking Fit or Todays image on hiring a manager. ONe of the several reasons to hire a manager is similar to what I am facing. some feed back please.

07-14-2004, 05:53 PM	#2 (permalink)
top250tansyou I love Derf!! Join Date: Jan 1 2004 Location: little rock Posts: 2,237 Rep Power: 6	As a mnager I dont want to work along side of you. I want to run the show. Leave me alone and let me do my thing.

07-14-2004, 06:08 PM	#3 (permalink)
West Side Tanner Join Date: Dec 27 2003 Location: Florida Posts: 2,548 Rep Power: 5	I'll agree. It would be very hard working side by side with the owner, what then would be the purpose of a manager. It would be imitating.

07-14-2004, 06:28 PM	#4 (permalink)
susanlatte Waiting Confirmation Join Date: Sep 1 2003 Posts: 231 Rep Power: 0	Has any OWNER done this in the past is really what I want to know... _________________ Neon Beach Tanning The Original and Best Salon in Mukilteo,WA[ This Message was edited by: susanlatte on 2004-07-14 18:29 ]

07-14-2004, 07:56 PM	#5 (permalink)
laurajmaxx Join Date: Jan 12 2004 Posts: 66 Rep Power: 0	Perhaps hiring an Assistant to do various &/or specific things for X anount of hours per week including floor time Vs.the term Manager... Do you have a traing concept set up? Write a list of what you really want them to do & go from there.

07-14-2004, 08:10 PM	#6 (permalink)
susanlatte Waiting Confirmation Join Date: Sep 1 2003 Posts: 231 Rep Power: 0	Laurajmaxx, Actually that has already been done. Thanks for the advice.We already have the manager list of duties. Really it is trying to deterimine when does it become necessary to hire a manager to run the day to day business and let the owner do the duties that the owner needs to do.

07-14-2004, 10:21 PM	#7 (permalink)
laurajmaxx Join Date: Jan 12 2004 Posts: 66 Rep Power: 0	Perhaps when you feel that the "day to day" duties are stopping you from "owner duties" is a good time. I have 2 stores w/ 30 units total & renters too. Quite small compared to many here. I felt overwhelmed trying to do it all, predict it all...Family ,friends ect. 2 yrs ago I hired an "assistant" whos actual job discription was to float from store to store and learn/do various things from bed cleaning to lamps changes to covering floor time to stocking retail & various other stuff.. He loves the flexability & various duties he does . He has plenty of flex w/ his time. He feels involved & learns & applies daily. He has evolved into someone who I count on alot, pay well & am thankful for. He is not a manager. I am that. His job is to enable me do my job better. Although I did train him myself for about 4 mths about our industry(ever changing, then busy then slow.ect.) & to be more self thinking & use his time well. Get the things done & done well. Raises came with preformance & responsibilites taken on. This worked for me. But mabie not for others. Good luck. keep us posted!

07-14-2004, 10:51 PM	#8 (permalink)
top250tansyou I love Derf!! Join Date: Jan 1 2004 Location: little rock Posts: 2,237 Rep Power: 6	I only see my boss half a dozen times a year. I talk with him on the phone a couple times a month. I take all of our deposits slips and paper work to his accountant he uses here in town. I handle everything else. If I have a big purchase to make or a large estimate on air, or computer work I clear it with him. He does decide on all equipment. I dont mind him in the salon (its his) but it puts on on pins and needles. I think this sums it up best a few years back he said something like this "I would do that differently - but im not the manager". Thats a nice way of getting me to do something the way he wanted it done but kind of still letting it be my salon. I apprectiated that very much.

07-15-2004, 02:17 PM	#9 (permalink)
laurajmaxx Join Date: Jan 12 2004 Posts: 66 Rep Power: 0	top 250...Why does the owners persence put you on "pins/needles"? Do you decide the future direction of his store? It sound like a very uninvolved owner. As an owner who is constantly looking to grow & direct/create my own future I am just curious.

07-15-2004, 04:08 PM	#10 (permalink)
susanlatte Waiting Confirmation Join Date: Sep 1 2003 Posts: 231 Rep Power: 0	Thanks! I appreciate your positive feedback Laura.

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