Quitting without notice????

Teresa · 09-17-2002, 07:53 AM

I had one of my full time employees call me about 6pm yesterday and tell me she got another job and they HAD to have her start today. What kind of employer would extend a job offer under the conditions that you cannot give your current employer some notice? I have half a notion to call this employer and tell them how absurd that is and ask them how they would feel about me taking one of their employees without recieving notice.

BooBop · 09-17-2002, 08:39 AM

Or it could be that the employee is not telling everything. If you call, you may find out more than you are thinking. And/or it could cause problems for the employee at the new job...???

Teresa · 09-17-2002, 10:08 AM

Unfortunately she did not tell me where the new job is but I'm sure I will find out and I will then call and question this action.

summrtan · 09-17-2002, 10:14 AM

I for one would question hiring someone that would consider leaving their present employment at the drop of a hat like that. You never know when the tables may turn. I have however been in a situation more than once where I needed some one NOW not in a couple weeks. I normally would not hire someone who is already employed under these conditions though, If they don't work out I don't feel as bad letting them go as I would if I know I took them away from present employment. Did your employee even let the other company know that she was presently employed? You never know, it may not be the other employer who is to blame. Just my 2 cents

summrtan · 09-17-2002, 10:17 AM

Another quick thought...maybe this is the employee who was stealing your lotions and is getting nervous?

Teresa · 09-17-2002, 10:27 AM

Nope, not the one that was stealing lotions. Two different locations......if it was the same salon that would be the first thought to cross my mind.

SteveMiller · 09-17-2002, 01:42 PM

Do you give notice when you get rid of an employee? Why should an employee give notice when they get rid of you?

Steve Miller

Becky · 09-18-2002, 03:09 PM

It is to an employees benefit to give notice. I have received reference letters in the past that were a big help in securing the 'right' job later. Had I just walked out, it would have been a different story.

If you let someone go, they usually have an idea that they are on thin ice beforehand. In fact, I have seen many a person leave a company becasue they knew it was a just a matter of time before they were let go.

Even though we have to be careful what information we give out, I would divulge that they left without notice. So, if you don't give me notice, don't ask for references!

Bronze Star · 09-18-2002, 03:23 PM

Giving notice starts with good hiring practices. When I would hire, part of our training was to inform employees of the proper ways to quit. We let them know upfront from day 1 that if they wanted a positive recommendation and positive rehire status, they had to give two weeks notice. A positive rehire status, with no recommendation was given for one week's notice. And no recommendation and a negative rehire status for no notice. This was standard across the board, regardless of the employees performance with us.

If you don't have a policy on voluntary terminations, it might be time to think of one. The decision to give no notice is ultimately up the employee. Who in the world would WANT to work for a company that would make a demand like that? I've had offers of immediate employment and still given two weeks notice and put the new employer on hold. IT CAN be done! But it sounds like your ex-employee made a poor choice.

Now she has to live with it. Because once an employer can dictate such extreme demands means they will expect the same level during the course of employment. Pity... never give another person THAT much control over your life. NEVER. Poor, poor choice.

pam · 09-22-2002, 10:16 PM

Which brings up another question? If someone turns in their 2-week notice and says that the other place wanted them sooner, do you let them work the 2 weeks. I had a girl do this recently. She had been very unhappy with us for awhile since she went to nail school and started doing nails for me as well as some tanning hours. I told her I was going to have to cut her nail hours because we are really slow right now but offered her tanning hours. She did not want the hours I offered her because she didn't want to work tanning anymore. The next day she came in with her notice and a new job. I told her that since they wanted her right away and I knew she was unhappy that I appreciated her notice and she could finish her customers for that day and be done. There were hurt feelings but she has been back to tan and we are working at being friendly. She was an excellent worker and great with customers until her focus changed. The new job is more money and benefits than I could offer her. How would you have handled it?
Pam

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
CANCER WARNING: Public Health Advocates Cite Lack of Risk Notice on Potato Chip Bags	Ezliving_Jim	Say What ?????	2	06-17-2005 01:25 PM
HOW TO GO ABOUT QUITTING??	BronzeBlonde	Open Forum	11	05-21-2005 09:06 PM
Manufacturers Please Take Notice	tangirl	Open Forum	3	02-01-2002 02:33 PM

09-17-2002, 07:53 AM	#1 (permalink)
Teresa Join Date: Dec 29 2001 Location: Davenport, IA Age: 44 Posts: 2,803 Rep Power: 9	I had one of my full time employees call me about 6pm yesterday and tell me she got another job and they HAD to have her start today. What kind of employer would extend a job offer under the conditions that you cannot give your current employer some notice? I have half a notion to call this employer and tell them how absurd that is and ask them how they would feel about me taking one of their employees without recieving notice.

09-17-2002, 08:39 AM	#2 (permalink)
BooBop I love Derf!! Join Date: Apr 5 2001 Posts: 9,497 Rep Power: 13	Or it could be that the employee is not telling everything. If you call, you may find out more than you are thinking. And/or it could cause problems for the employee at the new job...???

09-17-2002, 10:08 AM	#3 (permalink)
Teresa Join Date: Dec 29 2001 Location: Davenport, IA Age: 44 Posts: 2,803 Rep Power: 9	Unfortunately she did not tell me where the new job is but I'm sure I will find out and I will then call and question this action.

09-17-2002, 10:14 AM	#4 (permalink)
summrtan Join Date: Jun 13 2002 Location: N CAL Posts: 435 Rep Power: 7	I for one would question hiring someone that would consider leaving their present employment at the drop of a hat like that. You never know when the tables may turn. I have however been in a situation more than once where I needed some one NOW not in a couple weeks. I normally would not hire someone who is already employed under these conditions though, If they don't work out I don't feel as bad letting them go as I would if I know I took them away from present employment. Did your employee even let the other company know that she was presently employed? You never know, it may not be the other employer who is to blame. Just my 2 cents

09-17-2002, 10:17 AM	#5 (permalink)
summrtan Join Date: Jun 13 2002 Location: N CAL Posts: 435 Rep Power: 7	Another quick thought...maybe this is the employee who was stealing your lotions and is getting nervous?

09-17-2002, 10:27 AM	#6 (permalink)
Teresa Join Date: Dec 29 2001 Location: Davenport, IA Age: 44 Posts: 2,803 Rep Power: 9	Nope, not the one that was stealing lotions. Two different locations......if it was the same salon that would be the first thought to cross my mind.

09-17-2002, 01:42 PM	#7 (permalink)
SteveMiller Join Date: Jun 15 2001 Location: Girard, Ohio Posts: 130 Rep Power: 8	Do you give notice when you get rid of an employee? Why should an employee give notice when they get rid of you? Steve Miller

09-18-2002, 03:09 PM	#8 (permalink)
Becky Waiting Confirmation Join Date: May 7 2001 Posts: 1,057 Rep Power: 0	It is to an employees benefit to give notice. I have received reference letters in the past that were a big help in securing the 'right' job later. Had I just walked out, it would have been a different story. If you let someone go, they usually have an idea that they are on thin ice beforehand. In fact, I have seen many a person leave a company becasue they knew it was a just a matter of time before they were let go. Even though we have to be careful what information we give out, I would divulge that they left without notice. So, if you don't give me notice, don't ask for references!

09-18-2002, 03:23 PM	#9 (permalink)
Bronze Star Join Date: Apr 11 2001 Posts: 2,732 Rep Power: 8	Giving notice starts with good hiring practices. When I would hire, part of our training was to inform employees of the proper ways to quit. We let them know upfront from day 1 that if they wanted a positive recommendation and positive rehire status, they had to give two weeks notice. A positive rehire status, with no recommendation was given for one week's notice. And no recommendation and a negative rehire status for no notice. This was standard across the board, regardless of the employees performance with us. If you don't have a policy on voluntary terminations, it might be time to think of one. The decision to give no notice is ultimately up the employee. Who in the world would WANT to work for a company that would make a demand like that? I've had offers of immediate employment and still given two weeks notice and put the new employer on hold. IT CAN be done! But it sounds like your ex-employee made a poor choice. Now she has to live with it. Because once an employer can dictate such extreme demands means they will expect the same level during the course of employment. Pity... never give another person THAT much control over your life. NEVER. Poor, poor choice.

09-22-2002, 10:16 PM	#10 (permalink)
pam Police Department Join Date: Oct 29 2001 Location: USA Posts: 5,036 Rep Power: 10	Which brings up another question? If someone turns in their 2-week notice and says that the other place wanted them sooner, do you let them work the 2 weeks. I had a girl do this recently. She had been very unhappy with us for awhile since she went to nail school and started doing nails for me as well as some tanning hours. I told her I was going to have to cut her nail hours because we are really slow right now but offered her tanning hours. She did not want the hours I offered her because she didn't want to work tanning anymore. The next day she came in with her notice and a new job. I told her that since they wanted her right away and I knew she was unhappy that I appreciated her notice and she could finish her customers for that day and be done. There were hurt feelings but she has been back to tan and we are working at being friendly. She was an excellent worker and great with customers until her focus changed. The new job is more money and benefits than I could offer her. How would you have handled it? Pam

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)