Canadian Meeting To Be Exclusionary!

Don Smith · 05-01-2002, 09:31 AM

FYI:

I don't know about you, but I always thought that our neighbors to the north were as "open" and "transparent" in their regulatory dealings as we are here in the good old USA.

Thus, when several Canadian salon owners and industry leaders asked me to attend a meeting with Health Canada on 5/10/02, I agreed (at my own expense) with the proviso that my attendance would be acceptable to Health Canada.

I was, therefore, SHOCKED when I received an e-mail yesterday from Health Canada informing me that it was to be a "closed" meeting and I would NOT be allowed to attend.

As you may be aware, Health Canada is proposing that most of the onerous changes proposed by FDA (that originated in Europe) on 2/8/02 become part of the Canadian Sunlamp Standard. Do you suppose that because I have asked Health Canada some tough questions (that they don't want to answer!) had anything to do with their excluding me from the 5/10/02 meeting?

For instance, Health Canada executive Robert Bradley stated in his 4/22/02 letter that one provision to be implemented in Canada "was approved by FDA" when, in fact, that statement is categorically not true.

Thus, it appears that Health Canada does not want people attending their meetings who understands the reasons why most of their proposed changes are not scientifically justified. I'll be posting the questions I have asked Health Canada to comment upon and I will post their answers when (and if!) I get them.

Thank God we have the right to speak our mind about regulatory issues here in the USA. That is NOT the way regulatory decisions are made in Europe (and now Canada!) where decisions are made in secret "closed" meetings by people who have no understanding about the science of tanning and in many cases (too many!) are biased AGAINST the indoor tanning industry.

Our friends "up north" have some rough water ahead!

More later.

Don

Mori · 05-01-2002, 01:29 PM

Don, the meeting had been set up BEFORE any knowledge of the regulatory stance was exposed. The OTA did not want me to attend, at first because of my adversarial approach (and that's why I resigned) and then I had Denise Tremblay tell me that the meeting was ONLY to be with the PRESIDENTS of the associations.

If it wasn't so incredibly serious it would be a joke.

Now is NOT the time to cowtail, now is the time to stand up and show what we've got and what we've got is right !! It's time to expose those naysayers of beneficial effects of sunlight and take them to task to prove their position.

ITS TIME FOR THE ITA TO USE OUR MONEY AND SUE THE FUC*ERS !!

roger · 05-01-2002, 01:45 PM

I agree Mori.
The Canadien Gov. will push this through without any hard evidence one way or the other.

Chippp · 05-01-2002, 01:51 PM

Like I said in Canada we have no say in anything.
We are just the source a money for the gov.

Don Smith · 05-01-2002, 04:23 PM

Chippp:

Sadly, it appears that you are right.

The thing that upsets me is the the anti-tanning international regulators I have met couldn't run a tanning salon if their life depended upon it.

I thought the Canadian government was more "open" than they are.

Don

Mori · 05-01-2002, 04:42 PM

ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS CONVINCE THEM THAT THE us IS ABOUT TO IMPOSE REGULATIONS... THE CANADIAN GOV'T WILL DO THE OPPOSITE !!!

THAT'S HOW THE CANADIAN GOV'T WORKS !!!

Wow gov't works... isn't that oxymoronic !!

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05-01-2002, 09:31 AM	#1 (permalink)
Don Smith Join Date: Feb 25 2000 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 1,619 Rep Power: 10	FYI: I don't know about you, but I always thought that our neighbors to the north were as "open" and "transparent" in their regulatory dealings as we are here in the good old USA. Thus, when several Canadian salon owners and industry leaders asked me to attend a meeting with Health Canada on 5/10/02, I agreed (at my own expense) with the proviso that my attendance would be acceptable to Health Canada. I was, therefore, SHOCKED when I received an e-mail yesterday from Health Canada informing me that it was to be a "closed" meeting and I would NOT be allowed to attend. As you may be aware, Health Canada is proposing that most of the onerous changes proposed by FDA (that originated in Europe) on 2/8/02 become part of the Canadian Sunlamp Standard. Do you suppose that because I have asked Health Canada some tough questions (that they don't want to answer!) had anything to do with their excluding me from the 5/10/02 meeting? For instance, Health Canada executive Robert Bradley stated in his 4/22/02 letter that one provision to be implemented in Canada "was approved by FDA" when, in fact, that statement is categorically not true. Thus, it appears that Health Canada does not want people attending their meetings who understands the reasons why most of their proposed changes are not scientifically justified. I'll be posting the questions I have asked Health Canada to comment upon and I will post their answers when (and if!) I get them. Thank God we have the right to speak our mind about regulatory issues here in the USA. That is NOT the way regulatory decisions are made in Europe (and now Canada!) where decisions are made in secret "closed" meetings by people who have no understanding about the science of tanning and in many cases (too many!) are biased AGAINST the indoor tanning industry. Our friends "up north" have some rough water ahead! More later. Don

05-01-2002, 01:29 PM	#2 (permalink)
Mori Waiting Confirmation Join Date: Apr 23 2002 Posts: 247 Rep Power: 0	Don, the meeting had been set up BEFORE any knowledge of the regulatory stance was exposed. The OTA did not want me to attend, at first because of my adversarial approach (and that's why I resigned) and then I had Denise Tremblay tell me that the meeting was ONLY to be with the PRESIDENTS of the associations. If it wasn't so incredibly serious it would be a joke. Now is NOT the time to cowtail, now is the time to stand up and show what we've got and what we've got is right !! It's time to expose those naysayers of beneficial effects of sunlight and take them to task to prove their position. ITS TIME FOR THE ITA TO USE OUR MONEY AND SUE THE FUC*ERS !!

05-01-2002, 01:45 PM	#3 (permalink)
roger Join Date: Oct 22 2001 Posts: 145 Rep Power: 8	I agree Mori. The Canadien Gov. will push this through without any hard evidence one way or the other.

05-01-2002, 01:51 PM	#4 (permalink)
Chippp Join Date: Apr 19 2001 Posts: 2,556 Rep Power: 8	Like I said in Canada we have no say in anything. We are just the source a money for the gov.

05-01-2002, 04:23 PM	#5 (permalink)
Don Smith Join Date: Feb 25 2000 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 1,619 Rep Power: 10	Chippp: Sadly, it appears that you are right. The thing that upsets me is the the anti-tanning international regulators I have met couldn't run a tanning salon if their life depended upon it. I thought the Canadian government was more "open" than they are. Don

05-01-2002, 04:42 PM	#6 (permalink)
Mori Waiting Confirmation Join Date: Apr 23 2002 Posts: 247 Rep Power: 0	ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS CONVINCE THEM THAT THE us IS ABOUT TO IMPOSE REGULATIONS... THE CANADIAN GOV'T WILL DO THE OPPOSITE !!! THAT'S HOW THE CANADIAN GOV'T WORKS !!! Wow gov't works... isn't that oxymoronic !!

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