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Old 10-08-2003, 09:04 AM   #21 (permalink)
 
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The National Sales Manager for ETS has told me that their lotions are only sold in retail outlets in the state of Florida, where the company began as an outdoor lotion maker. Florida is a long way from me, so no it doesn't hurt me. The whole point here is if and when a move is made to expand the retail sales, and not just ETS but others. All I wanted to know was if anyone has seen their indoor products on the shelves of WalMart etc.? Other than Florida of course. Sheila: Not sure what you are insisting I insist when you say you aren't offering your throat to the ETS knife?????
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Neon Beach ~ you have multiple posts bashing ETS as the Company that is cutting the throats of salon owners... and while you are entitled to your opinions ~ I just post the facts according to Sheila that I have learned along the way.....

ETS was NOT in Bed with Beauty Sales for years.... that was Cal Tan and JA --->now occupied by the einsteins at Supre....

My point is not to claim you are a buffoon - - I don't think you are. You are passionate about what you FEEL is reality - and much of what you FEEL is generated from bullsh*t postings accross the boards that LOVE to HATE ETS cause they don't recognise Onliners as a viable entity....(they may be right )

As with most things in life ~ the most abusive of us are the ones that feel the deepest on the issues. Chasing Dust Bunnies year after year after year gets us no where.

If Salon Quality Lotions go 'Public' like many colognes and clothing lables have.... you will see a MASSIVE DROP in client use.... the only way a company would drop their product into mass retail sales is IF THEY ARE EXITING..... Somehow - out of ALL the goo companies that could generate interest in Mass Retail - - - ETS SEEMS THE LEAST LIKELY TO CHOOSE THAT ROUTE.

And - as a side note.... with all our bi*chen and moaning - - ETS still flexed the muscle and legal balls to go after Hatfields and others---- with hardly even a thank you kiss.....

WHY should ETS (or any other company getting so little return on their efforts) give a schite about a few crabby salon owners????

THEY understand the power (and sales) are not simply within the Online Community....

THEY understand that 30 million plus users of UV are potential clients of THEIRS....

They are so huge - they have NO EXIT stratagy..... Which is why I would have ONLY gone with their SUNLESS if they had stayed in the game.... when you need strength and balls - you gotta go with the biggest.

But I digress

MJ - I did 'start' with Mr. Steve Wright of the PriceisWright.com...... he is an obnoxious punk that appears to be selling products at diverted prices.... as a Sub Distributor - - he has to be recognised by the MFG as 'ok' to sell thru....

Working on that between the bodies today
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Unfortuantely I don't have large enough research staff unlike yourself. Indoor tanning products belong in indoor tanning facilities. Any company (according to some people there are none) that sell directly to the public and therefore deflect sales away from salon owners is not salon friendly. Indoor tanners who want indoor lotions will buy them regardless of their sources, my point is anyone contacting a lotion company regarding purchasing should, without second thought, be directed to the nearest tanning salon. That should be their source and that should be the reality, mine and yours............ As far as ETS? Who knows the reality they are dwelling in!
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NeonBeach ~ thank you.

Let me know when you become the MFG --- so I can tell you WHAT to DO

The day I let anyone tell me what to do is the day I have received that full lobotomy.

I cannot keep beating the dead horse - - go Private Label or become your own MFG of indoor salon products.... Let Cant'BeatThisDeal Mr. Wright be your sales person

You and you neck will sleep safely at nite.
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