elecrical upgrade question

caribbean tan man · 08-04-2007, 11:37 AM

whats the average price of upgrading from 200 amp single phase to a 3 phase. im looking at a salon 4 sale and its only got 200 amp single.

Mr Derf · 08-04-2007, 11:40 AM

If you are going to upgrade to 3 phase, you might as well up the amps too. It's been a while since I did that. I think it cost me about $4000.00 10 years ago.

caribbean tan man · 08-04-2007, 01:25 PM

so like 400 amp 3 phase. im not even sure i can get the 3 phase. worse case could be 400 amp single!!!!!!!! why im looking at a second salon i still havent even figured out yet!

Mr Derf · 08-04-2007, 01:39 PM

I got one for you.

DimiXTT · 08-04-2007, 01:49 PM

The cost of upgrading a single phase to three phase depends on the existing size of conduit, and the length to the nearest 3 phase transformer or over head lines. I agree with Mr. Derf, if you are planning to add more units you will need to up the amps at least 400amp 3 phase, don't forget if you are adding more unit you also have to look at the A/C unit to upgrade or add a new one. So the more amps you have the more you can do to the new salon.

I'm also an electric project manager, we normal will charge $75.00 per foot and the cost of the panel and to install it.
hope this helps.;)

DimiXTT · 08-04-2007, 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by caribbean tan man

so like 400 amp 3 phase. im not even sure i can get the 3 phase. worse case could be 400 amp single!!!!!!!! why im looking at a second salon i still havent even figured out yet!

600 amp single phase = to 400 amp 3 phase ( approximally)

caribbean tan man · 08-04-2007, 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Derf

I got one for you.

what chu got mang?

nshorefixit · 08-04-2007, 02:22 PM

Theres alot involed, Like Dimixtt said it depends on the closest 3 phase trans. What we did was to add another meter to the building at singel phase. This also depends on the draw off the the trans. to the building. We were lucky and could add one. Infact the ele. co. said if we liked we could add two. So for a very small salon (4 units) we have two 125 amp feeds total 250 plenty for us but if you could add 2 or 3 meters at 200 amps your at 400 to 600 amps for your salon. Hope this helps.

Aloha, nshorefixit

caribbean tan man · 08-04-2007, 02:27 PM

thank 4 replys. i think it could have 3 phase to the building because out of 4 units 1 is a chinese restaurant another is a italian/ pizza restaurant then hair salon and the tanning.

i hear restaurants usually have 3 phase?!?!? yes no maybe

all the units have roof mounted ac units also.

the salon uses a 3 pole 60 amp breaker for the a/c......never seen 1 of them before. does that tell yous anything about the a/c size

engfant · 08-04-2007, 02:28 PM

HUGE MONEY is the answer. At least 10 large.

CTM, what's the layout of the salon? What do you WANT it to be?

08-04-2007, 11:37 AM	#1 (permalink)
caribbean tan man DERFTALK FBI AGENT Join Date: Jul 29 2003 Location: northeast Age: 32 Posts: 5,299 Rep Power: 31	electrical upgrade question whats the average price of upgrading from 200 amp single phase to a 3 phase. im looking at a salon 4 sale and its only got 200 amp single. __________________ someone PM me when a good tanning topic is posted. :lol: Last edited by caribbean tan man; 08-04-2007 at 02:10 PM.

08-04-2007, 11:40 AM	#2 (permalink)
Mr Derf Vote Derf 4 Prez! Join Date: Jun 29 2006 Location: NE Age: 46 Posts: 2,470 Rep Power: 9	Re: elecrical upgrade question If you are going to upgrade to 3 phase, you might as well up the amps too. It's been a while since I did that. I think it cost me about $4000.00 10 years ago.

08-04-2007, 01:25 PM	#3 (permalink)
caribbean tan man DERFTALK FBI AGENT Join Date: Jul 29 2003 Location: northeast Age: 32 Posts: 5,299 Rep Power: 31	Re: elecrical upgrade question so like 400 amp 3 phase. im not even sure i can get the 3 phase. worse case could be 400 amp single!!!!!!!! why im looking at a second salon i still havent even figured out yet! __________________ someone PM me when a good tanning topic is posted. :lol:

08-04-2007, 01:39 PM	#4 (permalink)
Mr Derf Vote Derf 4 Prez! Join Date: Jun 29 2006 Location: NE Age: 46 Posts: 2,470 Rep Power: 9	Re: elecrical upgrade question I got one for you.

08-04-2007, 01:49 PM	#5 (permalink)
DimiXTT Join Date: Oct 16 2005 Location: florida Age: 41 Posts: 46 Rep Power: 0	Re: elecrical upgrade question The cost of upgrading a single phase to three phase depends on the existing size of conduit, and the length to the nearest 3 phase transformer or over head lines. I agree with Mr. Derf, if you are planning to add more units you will need to up the amps at least 400amp 3 phase, don't forget if you are adding more unit you also have to look at the A/C unit to upgrade or add a new one. So the more amps you have the more you can do to the new salon. I'm also an electric project manager, we normal will charge $75.00 per foot and the cost of the panel and to install it. hope this helps.;) __________________ $D:\Documents and Settings\OCEAN-RAYZ\My Documents\My Pictures\club members Z's\Gina02ss.jpg$

08-04-2007, 02:22 PM	#8 (permalink)
nshorefixit I love Derf!! Join Date: Jan 11 2006 Location: Hawaii Posts: 104 Rep Power: 3	Re: elecrical upgrade question Theres alot involed, Like Dimixtt said it depends on the closest 3 phase trans. What we did was to add another meter to the building at singel phase. This also depends on the draw off the the trans. to the building. We were lucky and could add one. Infact the ele. co. said if we liked we could add two. So for a very small salon (4 units) we have two 125 amp feeds total 250 plenty for us but if you could add 2 or 3 meters at 200 amps your at 400 to 600 amps for your salon. Hope this helps. Aloha, nshorefixit __________________ Aloha, "For one to live in paradise, one must work in paradise." Thank goodness for indoor tanning.

08-04-2007, 02:27 PM	#9 (permalink)
caribbean tan man DERFTALK FBI AGENT Join Date: Jul 29 2003 Location: northeast Age: 32 Posts: 5,299 Rep Power: 31	Re: elecrical upgrade question thank 4 replys. i think it could have 3 phase to the building because out of 4 units 1 is a chinese restaurant another is a italian/ pizza restaurant then hair salon and the tanning. i hear restaurants usually have 3 phase?!?!? yes no maybe all the units have roof mounted ac units also. the salon uses a 3 pole 60 amp breaker for the a/c......never seen 1 of them before. does that tell yous anything about the a/c size __________________ someone PM me when a good tanning topic is posted. :lol: Last edited by caribbean tan man; 08-04-2007 at 02:29 PM.

08-04-2007, 02:28 PM	#10 (permalink)
engfant FREE ENGFANTUCATION Join Date: May 20 2003 Posts: 9,442 Rep Power: 13	Re: elecrical upgrade question HUGE MONEY is the answer. At least 10 large. CTM, what's the layout of the salon? What do you WANT it to be? __________________ "And shut your mouth pussycat e fammi un macchiato, pronto!" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhHhXukovMU

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