TANNING 12th and Finally Hour, Welcome to a Season less Industry

[Mr Derf]

Originally Posted by keyser

WOW
This for sure will have a Reply.Keep in mind upfront that is not a FLAME BUT THE TRUTH ........Lets examine closely shall we ..........

.COM

The rant from Keyser; a.k.a. "bad karma"; a.k.a. ".com"; a.k.a. "keith" should be ignored for one reason - none of his previous "rants" have proven to be accurate. For some reason he seems to take perverse delight in trying to spread "gloom and doom" among those who don't know his track record.


.Com"s Track record GO back and read any of my posts over the last 3 years and ALL of you will see that about 80% has come to pass and or coming to pass AS we speak now.

THAT IS A FACT

Here is another fact on Don smith. If a lamp company doesnt Pay HIS way to the national shows HE WILL NOT COME AT ALL................This is a guy who preaches lamps to an Industry as a Whole Not that is makes anyone a bad person, COULD CARELESS ABOUT YOUR UVA UVB Spectrum SHOME ME THE MONEY Not some boring write up about nanometers.

Once again the HATERS Come about on-line showing there TRUE COLORS

The fact of the matter is that:

1. The so-called "mom and pop" salons are in better shape competitively and better able to "survive" the tough times we are going through than are the "chain" salons who have to pay franchise fees and are "hindered" by corporate policy and proceedures.


WHATTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT. Once again no knowledge of how Large corporate america with Deep pockets works,,,You judge this on excutive tans failure ?????

Palm beach Planet beach HOLLYWOOD tans and a few others Have more money coming in and or locations Then any large Mom and pop salon in the USA ,,,And lets not foget about movie gallery the Sleeping giant

But fogrget about that Lets talk about market share. Mom and Pop"s are WHERE ON THIS MATTER ??????????????

Lets talk about perception Palm beach is where and Mom and pop in their Old a location that was great 8 years ago now the area is full of Non tanning people and the Franchise operator has opened up 6-10 locations to YOUR one or two in the last 24 months.

ONCE Again DON Proves his LACK OF KNOWLEDGE ON THIS MATTER

Lets continue shall WE


2. The lotion companies have, collectively, provided us with reasonably priced products that make the difference between our being profitable and losing money.

AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHA Don Please get off the crack pipe

GO TO E-BAY AND YOU WILL FIND HOW NICE OF A JOB THE LOTION COMPANIES HAVE DONE FOR ALL OF US

Once again Don proves his lack of knowledge to anyone at hand.


3. What he "sees" as "seasonless" is, in reality, his inability to recognize that more and more clients are now seeing the value of tanning year-round.


WHATTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT ?????? I think maybe your grasp on indoor tanning is getting mixed up with Netflix rentals on-line

THERE ISNT A TOP SALON IN THE COUNTRY THAT HASNT HAD A DIP OF TANNERS AT LEAST 25-50% OFF over the last 3 years on the FACE OF THIS EARTH .

Tanning volume is SO far down its past scary, Its just plain Stupid

I do not even has a comment towards Don answer on this matter.

4. ALL Salon owners now enjoy a "buyers market" and the low prices we currently pay for sunbeds and lotions reflect that fact of life.

REALLY HMMMMMMMMMMMMMM Looks like those Distb and bed guys are getting to Don again.......... Low prices when is the last time YOU Priced out a new HP BED ????

P 90"S ARE Tipping the scales at 40 grand THATS LOW ??????

Once again Don proves His lack of knowledge on indoor tanning


5. The "bloom is off the rose" as far as sunless tanning (especially in booths) is concerned because (a) the "long term" results weren't acceptable and (b) no photoprotection was provided. There has been, therefore, a "return" to UV tanning that will continue.


ahahahahahhaahhahahahaha SURE HASNT. LETS TRY Vercaspa"s There has been NO return to UV TANNING PERIOD.And on top of that why is most tanning bed manufactures are coming out with a compelte line on these types of units by next year ????? Because uva tanning is SO UP

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


6. Finally, the "word" is getting out to the American public that attaining/maintaining an optimal blood level of vitaman D (25 (OH)D) is necessary (a) for optimal physical and mental health, and, (b) to "reduce the risk" of dread diseases like cancer, coronary heart disease, diabetes, MS, etc., and more and more "medical experts" are agreeing that MORE sensible, moderate and responsible exposure (i.e., "controlled" exposure) to UVR is required. Thus, what keyser, bad karma, .com, keith seems unable to "foresee" is that the most convenient, cost effective and CONTROLLED year-round source of vitamin D-effective photons IS your local indoor tanning salon.


OHHHHHH REALLY AND THAT WORD IS BEING SPREAD THRU WHO ??????

The soon to be chapter 7 ITA ????? THAT WOULD BE THE ITA WHO WAS SUPPOSE TO HELP PROMOTE INDOOR TANNING FOR ALL OF US YEH THEY DID A GREAT JOB NOTTTTTTTTTT.

THEY WERE A JOKE FROM DAY # 1 AND STILL REMAIN A JOKE .

So, folks, don't lose faith! The struggle won't be easy and some of us will fall by the wayside. However, the rewards will be great for those who are able to "stay the course" and grow their client base. An individual salon owner can't do much about "overbuilding of salons" by the large franchise operations and/or stopping the "negative press" by the anti-tanning coalition but they CAN make sure that each and every one of their clients are treated the way every human being wants to be treated.


SO WHAT IS DON TRYING TO SAY HERE FOLKS LET ME READ IT BACK TO YOU

ITS OVER ..........................Unless you have what I stated in the orignal post

Don smith has been a .COM hater from DAY # 1 WHY Because I called HIM Out years ago on his Non-sense jargon on Tanning bulbs NOBODY CARES ABOUT THAT.

Go into any tanning salon across america and ask the staff about the bulbs in the beds,You would have a better chance of asking them who was the 14th president of the United states of america.NOBODY CARES.

Once again the doom and gloom posts I write are not that, However what they are is the TRUTH AS TO WHAT IS HERE AND COMING.

Regards to ALL

.Com

That's a lot of typing. I'm too busy to read it.

	Superior UV

[Nigelappler]

Make your customers feel like VIP and they'll stick with you. Be the hottest salon or get out... image is everything. Unfortunatly Theres not room for all of us, life sucks.

I'm with Eileen on this one.

IMO.. All the salons I see failing around my city are the ones with horrible decor and outdated beds.

[Neon Beach]

Yeah, okay.

[dcjjp2]

I wish I were up against blow up palm trees and old ETS equipment.

I have regional players that use very similar equipment, but, I have location and diversity with massage therapy as a strong hold. I am up against deep pockets.

	Superior UV

[Neon Beach]

People wanna tan at The Ritz, but pay Super 8 prices.

[dcjjp2]

I guess I don't get it. PBT charging $9.95 for the first month of tanning, with close to 30K + in overhead per store, monthly. They aren't THAT busy. I have staked them out on a few occasions.

[international]

Originally Posted by dcjjp2

I guess I don't get it. PBT charging $9.95 for the first month of tanning, with close to 30K + in overhead per store, monthly. They aren't THAT busy. I have staked them out on a few occasions.

they are opening one up about 5 miles from me but within a mile of 10 other salons and 3 other heavy hitting franchises. I dont get it! They cant be THAT busy not to mention like u said thier overhead is ridiculous. I have been stalking out one salon near me that seems DEAD all the time! Yet thier doors still open.

[ChristineE]

Originally Posted by dcjjp2

I guess I don't get it. PBT charging $9.95 for the first month of tanning, with close to 30K + in overhead per store, monthly. They aren't THAT busy. I have staked them out on a few occasions.

How long have they been there Jeff? Deep pockets don't last forever...........

[dcjjp2]

That's what I was thinking Christine. This one has been around for about the same time as I have been 3+. They aren't that close to me to really do anything, but I get people all of the time telling me that they are going to check them out.

I say have at it. You have to get into your car, drive (only about 2.5 miles, which here can take 30-40 minutes depending on the time of day) tan, and do the same in reverse, vs. walking across the street or coming down an elevator a few stories.

Choice is yours.

[Ezliving_Jim]

Indoor tanning will always be small business.

A franchise tanning salon is nothing but a small business with a national name and additional franchise fees, expenses and limitations that independents don't have to carry.

Keep some perspective. Read http://www.****edcompany.com/ once in a while. Puretan crashed and burned and, as a manufacturer, it didn't even rate a mention there. Too small.

CalTan got swallowed whole by Australian Gold and the tanning industry lost a major lotion brand with hardly a belch. The biggest companies in indoor tanning are bite size.