First time tanner at your salon... Restriction on which beds they can use?

WendyJo · 10-01-2005, 11:26 AM

I tanned at a salon about 45 minutes from me, and I asked if I could tan in their wider bed. She said that first time tanners at their salon have to start off in the base beds. They don't want anyone to get burned...

For those of you with multiple levels, do you tell new clients they can't use the "big" beds on their first visit? Or, do you adjust the exposure time accordingly and let them try it?

I was a little put off by it, myself.

ALOHATANCA · 10-01-2005, 01:23 PM

Generally we do the same thing unless they insist & then we would skin type them ( which we do to all of our clients.)& set the time accordingly. When you want to go into a bed that is 12 min. or less then you would only be able to go onto it a few min., at least in a 20. min. bed you would be able to go into it longer. I personally feel that the best tan is had in a 20 or 15 min unit.

top250tansyou · 10-01-2005, 01:41 PM

Yes by all means spend the most and go with the best beds. At the salon i work the higher the wattage the less UVB - better quicker tan. I just assumed that was the industry standard on lamps and beds. I guess i am wrong beacause if i was right that would mean that you two did not know this and dont know how your beds operate. I would find that highly unlikely. So it must be me.

Our beds go 32 lamps/11 facial 120 watt
40 lamp 120 watt bottom 170 watt top
50 lamps 170 4 high pressure facials
800 watt high pressure virtical

120 watt has the largest % of UVB 800 watt HP the least. You will burn much easier in the 120watt versus the other units.

BooBop · 10-01-2005, 02:20 PM

I would NEVER EVER discourage someone from going in the higher end beds. They must be crazy!

Our policy states that if you have never tanned with us or haven't been in the past 30 days you can only tan 1/2 the time the bed is rated for. Of course you when you do skin typing some may be able to go a little longer. We don't have problems with this.

And of course I would want to get first timers into the big beds right off the bat!

ALOHATANCA · 10-01-2005, 02:22 PM

I could be wrong but always felt that the 15 & 20 min beds would give you a deeper tan and mt Tech told me the same thing. (?)... My 15 min. bed that has 100 watt VLR TT lamps is stronger (higher UBV) than
my 20 min. beds that has a combo of 100. 80 & 120 lamps.

WendyJo · 10-01-2005, 03:06 PM

Quote:
On 2005-10-01 14:20:00, Mitzi wrote:
I would NEVER EVER discourage someone from going in the higher end beds. They must be crazy!

Our policy states that if you have never tanned with us or haven't been in the past 30 days you can only tan 1/2 the time the bed is rated for. Of course you when you do skin typing some may be able to go a little longer. We don't have problems with this.

And of course I would want to get first timers into the big beds right off the bat!

This is my line of thought as well... why would you not let someone try the big beds??? I mean, going 5 minutes (instead of 12 or 15 max) is still better than not experiencing the big bed at all, right?

I guess I don't understand the reasoning... if it's truly "so you won't burn", then somebody doesn't know how to skin-type people and adjust exposure time... and there's a bigger problem.

tanchix · 10-01-2005, 04:04 PM

the only people that I would truly discourage from using a higher level bed, would be the one's who are paper white or the one's that have a tendeny to always burn. When I say a higher level bed I am not talking about just one upgraded bed.

BooBop · 10-01-2005, 09:14 PM

Beds/lamps are rated on time to burn, no matter what type it is.

A 160 VHR is less likely to burn you than a 100 watt 6.5 lamp. In our salon the higher the level the less likely to burn but still get a tan started. I always try to get the 'paper white' customers to start in a vhr. They get to build a nice tan without the reddening. Works well for us and our clients are happy

TRTS · 10-02-2005, 08:04 AM

Clients can use the level of their choice...we just adjust the exposure time accordingly. We do discourage some from starting in the stand up, since it is so intense. They would have such a decreased exposure time, it would feel to them that they were not getting their $$ worth...in that situation we recommend our 160 Watt VHR to pull some color and then the stand up No unhappy clients yet.

sunsally · 10-02-2005, 10:20 AM

Quote:
On 2005-10-01 14:22:00, ALOHATANCA wrote:
I could be wrong but always felt that the 15 & 20 min beds would give you a deeper tan and mt Tech told me the same thing. (?)... My 15 min. bed that has 100 watt VLR TT lamps is stronger (higher UBV) than
my 20 min. beds that has a combo of 100. 80 & 120 lamps.

Deeper than what?

If that was true - why would anyone pay more to go in the higher level beds?

ALWAYS give them the option of "trying" the best equip you have with proper skin typing and exposure adjustment. If, like me, you charge a small "upcharge" to try it the first time, the fact that they can only go a few minutes is no great "loss" - at least they can experience the comfort, the features, and see some small initial result.

Lamps with a greater % of UVA will tan a little deeper and last a little longer. That's why HP tans only take about 3 to build a base and then "maintain" 3-4 times/month.

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10-01-2005, 11:26 AM	#1 (permalink)
WendyJo I love Derf!! Join Date: May 27 2005 Location: Tennessee Age: 34 Posts: 393 Rep Power: 4	I tanned at a salon about 45 minutes from me, and I asked if I could tan in their wider bed. She said that first time tanners at their salon have to start off in the base beds. They don't want anyone to get burned... For those of you with multiple levels, do you tell new clients they can't use the "big" beds on their first visit? Or, do you adjust the exposure time accordingly and let them try it? I was a little put off by it, myself.

10-01-2005, 01:23 PM	#2 (permalink)
ALOHATANCA Police Department Join Date: Nov 14 2003 Location: CALIFORNIA Age: 49 Posts: 4,436 Rep Power: 8	Generally we do the same thing unless they insist & then we would skin type them ( which we do to all of our clients.)& set the time accordingly. When you want to go into a bed that is 12 min. or less then you would only be able to go onto it a few min., at least in a 20. min. bed you would be able to go into it longer. I personally feel that the best tan is had in a 20 or 15 min unit.

10-01-2005, 01:41 PM	#3 (permalink)
top250tansyou I love Derf!! Join Date: Jan 1 2004 Location: little rock Posts: 2,237 Rep Power: 6	Yes by all means spend the most and go with the best beds. At the salon i work the higher the wattage the less UVB - better quicker tan. I just assumed that was the industry standard on lamps and beds. I guess i am wrong beacause if i was right that would mean that you two did not know this and dont know how your beds operate. I would find that highly unlikely. So it must be me. Our beds go 32 lamps/11 facial 120 watt 40 lamp 120 watt bottom 170 watt top 50 lamps 170 4 high pressure facials 800 watt high pressure virtical 120 watt has the largest % of UVB 800 watt HP the least. You will burn much easier in the 120watt versus the other units.

10-01-2005, 02:20 PM	#4 (permalink)
BooBop I love Derf!! Join Date: Apr 5 2001 Posts: 9,496 Rep Power: 13	I would NEVER EVER discourage someone from going in the higher end beds. They must be crazy! Our policy states that if you have never tanned with us or haven't been in the past 30 days you can only tan 1/2 the time the bed is rated for. Of course you when you do skin typing some may be able to go a little longer. We don't have problems with this. And of course I would want to get first timers into the big beds right off the bat!

10-01-2005, 02:22 PM	#5 (permalink)
ALOHATANCA Police Department Join Date: Nov 14 2003 Location: CALIFORNIA Age: 49 Posts: 4,436 Rep Power: 8	I could be wrong but always felt that the 15 & 20 min beds would give you a deeper tan and mt Tech told me the same thing. (?)... My 15 min. bed that has 100 watt VLR TT lamps is stronger (higher UBV) than my 20 min. beds that has a combo of 100. 80 & 120 lamps.

10-01-2005, 03:06 PM	#6 (permalink)
WendyJo I love Derf!! Join Date: May 27 2005 Location: Tennessee Age: 34 Posts: 393 Rep Power: 4	Quote: On 2005-10-01 14:20:00, Mitzi wrote: I would NEVER EVER discourage someone from going in the higher end beds. They must be crazy! Our policy states that if you have never tanned with us or haven't been in the past 30 days you can only tan 1/2 the time the bed is rated for. Of course you when you do skin typing some may be able to go a little longer. We don't have problems with this. And of course I would want to get first timers into the big beds right off the bat! This is my line of thought as well... why would you not let someone try the big beds??? I mean, going 5 minutes (instead of 12 or 15 max) is still better than not experiencing the big bed at all, right? I guess I don't understand the reasoning... if it's truly "so you won't burn", then somebody doesn't know how to skin-type people and adjust exposure time... and there's a bigger problem.

10-01-2005, 04:04 PM	#7 (permalink)
tanchix Join Date: Jun 7 2005 Location: United States Age: 29 Posts: 804 Rep Power: 5	the only people that I would truly discourage from using a higher level bed, would be the one's who are paper white or the one's that have a tendeny to always burn. When I say a higher level bed I am not talking about just one upgraded bed.

10-01-2005, 09:14 PM	#8 (permalink)
BooBop I love Derf!! Join Date: Apr 5 2001 Posts: 9,496 Rep Power: 13	Beds/lamps are rated on time to burn, no matter what type it is. A 160 VHR is less likely to burn you than a 100 watt 6.5 lamp. In our salon the higher the level the less likely to burn but still get a tan started. I always try to get the 'paper white' customers to start in a vhr. They get to build a nice tan without the reddening. Works well for us and our clients are happy

10-02-2005, 08:04 AM	#9 (permalink)
TRTS Waiting Confirmation Join Date: Apr 12 2004 Posts: 301 Rep Power: 0	Clients can use the level of their choice...we just adjust the exposure time accordingly. We do discourage some from starting in the stand up, since it is so intense. They would have such a decreased exposure time, it would feel to them that they were not getting their $$ worth...in that situation we recommend our 160 Watt VHR to pull some color and then the stand up No unhappy clients yet.

10-02-2005, 10:20 AM	#10 (permalink)
sunsally www.highlinecapital.com Join Date: Nov 23 2004 Location: ITA Member & Berman Supporter! Posts: 2,512 Rep Power: 8	Quote: On 2005-10-01 14:22:00, ALOHATANCA wrote: I could be wrong but always felt that the 15 & 20 min beds would give you a deeper tan and mt Tech told me the same thing. (?)... My 15 min. bed that has 100 watt VLR TT lamps is stronger (higher UBV) than my 20 min. beds that has a combo of 100. 80 & 120 lamps. Deeper than what? If that was true - why would anyone pay more to go in the higher level beds? ALWAYS give them the option of "trying" the best equip you have with proper skin typing and exposure adjustment. If, like me, you charge a small "upcharge" to try it the first time, the fact that they can only go a few minutes is no great "loss" - at least they can experience the comfort, the features, and see some small initial result. Lamps with a greater % of UVA will tan a little deeper and last a little longer. That's why HP tans only take about 3 to build a base and then "maintain" 3-4 times/month.

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