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Old 05-22-2014, 03:10 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Re: Adding beds to a small space advice please.

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I know you have a lot to give and have gave...but the majority of salon owners would cringe at the idea of a screen printing business offering tanning. You have a vested interest...selling to anyone wanting to open a tanning salon. I understand this.
You do not "understand" - but your less than veiled innuendo about my "vested interest" to "sell to anyone wanting to open a tanning salon", is, again, offensive. And inaccurate.

I have helped hundreds/thousands of people with advice - you included - and NEVER sold them a tanning bed!

I'm glad you feel confident to speak for the "majority of salon owners" who would "cringe at the idea of a screen printing business offering tanning". In my experience:

1. The "majority" of salon owners focus on their own business - and don't worry about what others do.

2. The "majority" of salon owners recall that the industry STARTED as "multi-use" businesses with tanning as a subset - and continue that way in large sections of the country.

3. The "majority" of salon owners are and should be more concerned about salons that are dirty, peep on customers, over expose clients, close in the middle of the night with client money, etc. THAT hurts our industry. Not someone making indoor tanning available in a community where there seems to be a demand - and an opportunity to fill it.
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You do not "understand" - but your less than veiled innuendo about my "vested interest" to "sell to anyone wanting to open a tanning salon", is, again, offensive. And inaccurate.

I have helped hundreds/thousands of people with advice - you included - and NEVER sold them a tanning bed!

I'm glad you feel confident to speak for the "majority of salon owners" who would "cringe at the idea of a screen printing business offering tanning". In my experience:

1. The "majority" of salon owners focus on their own business - and don't worry about what others do.

2. The "majority" of salon owners recall that the industry STARTED as "multi-use" businesses with tanning as a subset - and continue that way in large sections of the country.

3. The "majority" of salon owners are and should be more concerned about salons that are dirty, peep on customers, over expose clients, close in the middle of the night with client money, etc. THAT hurts our industry. Not someone making indoor tanning available in a community where there seems to be a demand - and an opportunity to fill it.
I'm not here to get in a ******* match with you. Voiced my opinion simply. Sorry I struck a nerve.
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I'm not here to get in a ******* match with you. Voiced my opinion simply. Sorry I struck a nerve.
By the way, #3 contradicts #1 but I see you are just venting...

No disrespect towards you...
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Re: Adding beds to a small space advice please.

I am the first person to advise operators to make sure they are designing their business to compete in todays market. However, there are small communities that may not be able to support a full blown salon. It may be a small community that is still somewhat traditional in its businesses. If the competition in this market is a gas station with a few beds that are not maintained and you have a space that even though it is attached to a non related business, you can put in a few of the right systems and become the tanning spot in town. If a full service salon comes to town you will have a hard time competing. But I see no problem with this small venture. Make the small space very nice, maintain your equipment and market everyone in town and you will keep those beds very busy.

As far as sunsally having a motive. She sells equipment to those that are looking for equipment and stands behind her product and what is wrong with that. She gave this person good information.

This potential small tanning spot is not the problem with our industry.

If you are going to open a tanning salon large or small, just take the time to do it correctly based on your market.
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Old 05-24-2014, 01:17 PM   #16 (permalink)
 
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Re: Adding beds to a small space advice please.

SunriseTan and BlackSun, do you really need to be a downer. You do not know anything about this person who is asking for advice. For you to comment as you did says a lot about you. This person is asking for your advice. Why not suggest to them that since they want to add to the printing business space, be sure to do a build-out that helps provide some division as not to have the different businesses "bleed" into each other. Maybe suggest they look into some TanWalls.

There is a small town in my state of Iowa with a population of approximately 2000. This business is extremely important to their little town. Under one roof you will find the following: bicycle rental, bicycle repair, small engine repair (i.e, weed eaters, push mower, chain saw, etc), Spring time they have have a nice selection of hanging baskets, tomato plants, bulbs, mulch. They sale chain saws, weed eaters, etc. They have a 4 table diner with typical diner food. There is a gift shop with some of the latest in gifts. There is also a 3-bed tanning salon.

I am also located in a small town, 4600 pop, about 45 minute drive from Des Moines. I opened in 2008 with a gift shop. After 5 years, it was time to either grow or close. I had a customer one day mention to me that our town needed a nice tanning salon. One of the locations I looked at had once been a Curves so there was electrical and rooms built for tanning beds. I put the word out and started asking people what they would think if I added them to my shop. The response was an overwhelmingly yes. I didn't end up with that location, but the idea of including tanning beds stuck with me. So, I hired a consultant who designed my floor plan. He never once told me not to do it. He worked with what I wanted and created a fantastic layout. There is a distinctive divide between the gift shop and the tanning. What's fantastic is this brought in a whole other demographic which is now buying tons of my purses. I've learned to cross promote and business is doing really well.

Go for it Sunnyboy!!!
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SunriseTan and BlackSun, do you really need to be a downer. You do not know anything about this person who is asking for advice. For you to comment as you did says a lot about you. This person is asking for your advice. Why not suggest to them that since they want to add to the printing business space, be sure to do a build-out that helps provide some division as not to have the different businesses "bleed" into each other. Maybe suggest they look into some TanWalls.

There is a small town in my state of Iowa with a population of approximately 2000. This business is extremely important to their little town. Under one roof you will find the following: bicycle rental, bicycle repair, small engine repair (i.e, weed eaters, push mower, chain saw, etc), Spring time they have have a nice selection of hanging baskets, tomato plants, bulbs, mulch. They sale chain saws, weed eaters, etc. They have a 4 table diner with typical diner food. There is a gift shop with some of the latest in gifts. There is also a 3-bed tanning salon.

I am also located in a small town, 4600 pop, about 45 minute drive from Des Moines. I opened in 2008 with a gift shop. After 5 years, it was time to either grow or close. I had a customer one day mention to me that our town needed a nice tanning salon. One of the locations I looked at had once been a Curves so there was electrical and rooms built for tanning beds. I put the word out and started asking people what they would think if I added them to my shop. The response was an overwhelmingly yes. I didn't end up with that location, but the idea of including tanning beds stuck with me. So, I hired a consultant who designed my floor plan. He never once told me not to do it. He worked with what I wanted and created a fantastic layout. There is a distinctive divide between the gift shop and the tanning. What's fantastic is this brought in a whole other demographic which is now buying tons of my purses. I've learned to cross promote and business is doing really well.

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Re: Adding beds to a small space advice please.

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I'm not here to get in a ******* match with you. Voiced my opinion simply. Sorry I struck a nerve.
This person didn't ask for your opinion. This person asked for advice.

Years ago supermarkets started off just carrying grocery type items, but over the years they have diversified and now you will find banks, eat-in restaurants, eye clinics, etc. etc. Strips malls started popping up all over America. You might find an eye clinic, beside a clothing store, beside a grocery store, beside a Mexican restaurant, beside a show store, etc. etc. So what's wrong for folks in small town to fill a need where ever possible. My customers don't seem to have a problem with my gift shop located in the same space. Brand new tan talls and brand new beds, and my customers love it!!! Not to mention my gift shop sales have went up.

Maybe you should get out of the city and see how Small Town America lives. Then maybe you will see that not everyone has a big city mentality. If a community has a need for a product and you think you can fulfill that need, I say go for it.

Also, I find it interesting why someone feels the need to remind others how successful they are.
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Re: Adding beds to a small space advice please.

Being successful at what you do , and thinking that those customer will come to tan at your Tanning salon might be to much to expect, like opening one next to a hair salon and nail salon figuring that customer from there will come to the tanning salon , is not so. Being a small town , what you target , remember it not a business that going to make you rich, business planning is a must, what are you expecting to make, what the cost of tanning, how much for electrical, what are you going to pay per hour,who going to work the salon, who going to come in when someone call in sick, Hours open, How many how you working now .There more to saying let open a business then really doing it without thinking first of all that apply.
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You must do some research before making the decision to open a tanning salon for sure. I went into it knowing that a small town tanning salon would not make me rich. Unfortunately small towns like our are dying. We have a very nice old courthouse in our town square. Since I moved off the square, 16 months ago, we've lost our only woman's clothing/shoe store, Customer Framing and Home Décor, barber, a plumbing business, and hunting/archery store. The we are the largest town in our county with a pop of 4600 and our largest neighbor is 35 miles west or 30 miles north. We had a hair salon who has had two beds for years. Beds are 25+ y/o and you have to stomp on the floor when you're ready for her to turn the bed on. The other competition (now closed) had 1, equally old, bed in a bridal shop basement. They took appointments, only allowed you to tan every 48 hours and closed at 5:30. So after doing some of my own research, I invested in a consultant who has 30 years in the tanning business. This person not only looked at my demographics, but helped me with a selection/level of beds (brand new from Heartland), provided pricelist, negotiated my lease, put together the floor plan and build out. Money well spent. I decided to take a chance because I needed something to supplement my slow season in retail (Jan-Apr) and tanning fit the bill. After my first 6 months I surpassed the number of tanners from my business plan, and to date, have almost doubled that number. My consultant has kept my grounded. When things were going well I wanted to go out and purchase another bed, but he told me to hold tight. Great advice.

After our woman's clothing store closed I had tons of people tell me I should expand into clothes. Really, you didn't shop at #*$*$ so why should I think you'd shop with me. People will drive an hour to Des Moines to clothes shop, but they won't go to Des Moines to tan. This is something that our small town can support. Like I said, I knew I wouldn't get rich doing it, but now that my income has improved, I'm not living on my military retirement.

You can find success in a small town, but my success and your success might look very different.
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