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Old 08-16-2012, 06:41 AM   #11 (permalink)
 
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Unlike the USA, Euro salons, and Qatar is British, are very small and not 'mega'...this is due to many reasons, one being cost of rent space...small is better (cheaper). Also, Euro salons are more on the high-end with more emphasis on HP. Europeans/international tanners much more sophisticated than American counterparts regarding tanning.

Also, I would not combine nails/hair. That, IMO, cheapens a nice high-end salon, which I get the impression you desire.

I believe, a good 1000sq ft with 5 top high performing units (KBL/UWE/ISO) would be the way to go. ISO offers a nice LP bed, not available in USA..forget the name, something like 'Meiter'..anyway, 2 or 3 of those and two HP beds offering different intensity would be a killer, IMO.
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Re: New to Business... info on power needed

Black Sun is right on, in his recomondation. Do not consider having nails/hair as a mix in a tanning salon. The smell the acrylic nails, and some hair products can be overbearing and drive away your tanning customers.
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Excellent equipment..UWE/KBL/ISO..the only three I'd consider....good choice...price seems about right, but I am in USA....is this all the equipment you are going with, and is that 1 of each? If so, I would forget the Dome and go with another laydown...in USA, tanning standups get less than 10% of usage....so, IMO, a waste of $$, unless space allows and you have appropriate beds, then a standup would be an added item..just my thoughts...maybe add a Silver Bullet or Cayenne or Lotus
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A couple of comments:

1. Your competitors have a standup - and a red light (collagen) bed. Could be because they are in high demand, could be because a salesperson talked them into them! :-) That said - do some research, see if those are "must have" units for YOUR salon or dust collectors (as you say - standups may be very good in your market - they are in some, not so much in others).


2. As a related comment - standup beds TEND to be cheaper than a similarly powered laydown. They CAN be a very good value - if you know how to ensure they get good usage.


3. Megasun (KBL), Iso, UWE, JK Ergo -- all good and familiar choices overseas. All "high end" - cream of the crop. Expensive - but quality.


4. Again -- I'd do more research for your "model".

Should you have "levels" (as you are proposing)?
Just a couple of top-end only units?
Have some more "ordinary" at the lower end and then some "premium" at the top?
What about Sunless?
What about Red Light?
What about High Pressure?


5. Again - I'd considered used. If not from a US dealer, from someone closer. There are salons that have close with good equip available. Don't feel you have to buy new to get "new like".

6. Along with your research --- know any local regulations, here or coming. Europe has/is adopting a model that allows MUCH less exposure - in effect, killing demand. See if that is anything that is in your market - or coming.
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I would skip Ultrasun and Luxura entirely.

For Heartland, between the 5400 and 6400 - for the money - I'd do the 6400. Very nice bed. But you will also need to figure in shipping into all these costs - that could swing the "value" for you here one way or the other.

40-50k is your budget - just for equip? Including shipping? Then your electric, buildout, supplies and everything else will be separate - correct?
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Ya everything else is separate. Everything can be shipped in a 20' container.

i cant seem to find much info on the heartland, if they come with any extra options: breeze, air co, aroma, music, etc.

Any reason why you say no to Luxura and Ultrasun?
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Ya everything else is separate. Everything can be shipped in a 20' container.

i cant seem to find much info on the heartland, if they come with any extra options: breeze, air co, aroma, music, etc.

Any reason why you say no to Luxura and Ultrasun?
Heartland is an excellent USA distributor...puts out great equipment..not all the bells and whistles of top euro beds, but then again, IMO, bells and whistles are extra costly baggage(garbage) one could do with out.

Having Heartland shipped from USA can add to your budget limitations, plus, what about after the sale support? As good and respectable as they are here, I'd have to wonder about there..

Agree with Ann/Sunsally...stay away from Luxura. I believe your best bet is UWE. You could probably go pre-owned with them knowing support and quality will be there since they are international...

can you post the UWE European website? I can't find it...let me see what beds they offer (different at times from USA models)
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Nice stuff....always a great fan of UWE..

Absolutely you need to check out Ultrasun/UWE for comparison, however, when all said and done, UWE is KING, and IMO, that is where your concentration should be...Ultrasun beds are good, UWE, Great...no in-between

Keeping the 4-5 bed theme in mind, I would make the salon a high-end/HP salon.
The P90 is an excellent HP performer..but will eat into your 50K budget...you may want to consider the iDream if the budget constraints is firm...Keeping that thought the Lotus would be the choice for the other beds, since more in budget for 1st tier, 2ea LOTUS CPS 100/120, 2ea UWE LOTUS CPS 160/180....those 5 beds would be an ideal set-up...forget the Dome/standup unless space and money is there...

Others may have a diff opinion, but his is what I'd do
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