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Old 07-18-2006, 09:28 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Floor Plans & Demographic Reports

Two very important elements of opening a new tanning salon are a demographic report and a floor plan design.

Knowing how to best utilize every inch of your lease space can be very difficult.
You have some ideas of what you want your salon to look like but getting it drawn out so your contractor knows exactly what you want and how to incorporate it with where doors, plumbing and electrical must be located can be quite a task.

There are many ways to get a demographic report, but sorting through the numbers to get to the information that is pertinent to the success of a tanning salon can also be quite difficult.

If you have decided to open a new tanning salon, you can send me the address of the location you are interested in along with the dimensions of the space and location of the doors, pluming and electrical panel and I will pull a custom tanning salon demographic report, and design a floor plan created on a CAD program that will best utilize every inch of the space. You can also send any design ideas you have. I will provide these documents FREE to any potential new salon owners.

Please send your request to my email address. Please include your name and contact information. These documents are just two of the steps that will get you on your way to opening your new salon.

Because creating these documents are very time consuming, I ask that the floor plan only be requested by people that are planning on opening a new salon. If you are an existing salon owner or thinking about buying an existing salon I will be happy to send you a demographic report FREE.
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Two very important elements of opening a new tanning salon are a demographic report and a floor plan design.

Knowing how to best utilize every inch of your lease space can be very difficult.
You have some ideas of what you want your salon to look like but getting it drawn out so your contractor knows exactly what you want and how to incorporate it with where doors, plumbing and electrical must be located can be quite a task.

There are many ways to get a demographic report, but sorting through the numbers to get to the information that is pertinent to the success of a tanning salon can also be quite difficult.

If you have decided to open a new tanning salon, you can send me the address of the location you are interested in along with the dimensions of the space and location of the doors, pluming and electrical panel and I will pull a custom tanning salon demographic report, and design a floor plan created on a CAD program that will best utilize every inch of the space. You can also send any design ideas you have. I will provide these documents FREE to any potential new salon owners.

Please send your request to my email address. Please include your name and contact information. These documents are just two of the steps that will get you on your way to opening your new salon.

Because creating these documents are very time consuming, I ask that the floor plan only be requested by people that are planning on opening a new salon. If you are an existing salon owner or thinking about buying an existing salon I will be happy to send you a demographic report FREE.

Just use www.census.gov for all of your demographics studies. Most companies that are leasing any retail space, if they are reputable, will include a current demographic report in the leasing documents. This is one of the ways that they market existing or new retail developments, or if you use a broker, which will cost you nothing since the selling side pays the fees, have them present the demographics study to you, or have them attain it from the lessor/seller.

As far as floorplans, there are a ton of architects out there who work for themselves and would be glad to help you with your plans for a small fee. Since they will use mechanical engineers, electrical engineers, etc. etc. to draw the plans for you, it is well worth the money. The Leasing company for any retail shop should have the CAD Drawings and would be more than willing to provide them to you, so that your architect can get started. I paid 2.50 per square foot for my architect to do my space, the total cost was 2,400 and was well worth it since the permitting requires the signed and stamped drawings from the architect. They will take into account, all of your beds electrical and AC requirements, so that there is absolutley no guess work involved. A good Tanning Bed Company will provide you with the COMPLETE specs of all of their beds, all the way down to what gauge wiring to use, how much ac per bed, how many hots and grounds, etc. etc.
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Just use www.census.gov for all of your demographics studies. Most companies that are leasing any retail space, if they are reputable, will include a current demographic report in the leasing documents. This is one of the ways that they market existing or new retail developments, or if you use a broker, which will cost you nothing since the selling side pays the fees, have them present the demographics study to you, or have them attain it from the lessor/seller.

As far as floor plans, there are a ton of architects out there who work for themselves and would be glad to help you with your plans for a small fee. Since they will use mechanical engineers, electrical engineers, etc. etc. to draw the plans for you, it is well worth the money. The Leasing company for any retail shop should have the CAD Drawings and would be more than willing to provide them to you, so that your architect can get started. I paid 2.50 per square foot for my architect to do my space, the total cost was 2,400 and was well worth it since the permitting requires the signed and stamped drawings from the architect. They will take into account, all of your beds electrical and AC requirements, so that there is absolutely no guess work involved. A good Tanning Bed Company will provide you with the COMPLETE specs of all of their beds, all the way down to what gauge wiring to use, how much ac per bed, how many hots and grounds, etc. etc.
You must be a very angry person. Yes before you can start construction you will need a stamped blueprint produced by an architect. Before you ever get to that point and are trying to evaluate the space and are trying to get a number of bids, and you want all of the contractors to be bidding on the same job. You must create a preliminary floor plan. When an Architect gets one of my drawings, their job is much easier and the time it takes to get your blueprint completed is much shorter, just another tool that saves you time, and as we all know time is money. I am not sure why excitedguy does not want anyone to take advantage of documents that are created for your specific needs is beyond me. he would rather you go pay for something or get a general census document rather than a custom report from Demographics now. I pay for the service, design a custom tanning report for tanning salons and provide it free and this makes you angry. Wow, excitedguy, you should change your name to paranoidguy. I have already sent out three free reports today and there was no conspiracy involved. Please, don't anyone communicate with Mr Underhill, he is a bad, bad man and he is trying to kidnap your babies.
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You must be a very angry person. Yes before you can start construction you will need a stamped blueprint produced by an architect. Before you ever get to that point and are trying to evaluate the space and are trying to get a number of bids, and you want all of the contractors to be bidding on the same job. You must create a preliminary floor plan. When an Architect gets one of my drawings, their job is much easier and the time it takes to get your blueprint completed is much shorter, just another tool that saves you time, and as we all know time is money. I am not sure why excitedguy does not want anyone to take advantage of documents that are created for your specific needs is beyond me. he would rather you go pay for something or get a general census document rather than a custom report from Demographics now. I pay for the service, design a custom tanning report for tanning salons and provide it free and this makes you angry. Wow, excitedguy, you should change your name to paranoidguy. I have already sent out three free reports today and there was no conspiracy involved. Please, don't anyone communicate with Mr Underhill, he is a bad, bad man and he is trying to kidnap your babies.

you're not a bad man....just trying to let everyone know how and where to get things,,,,never said anything about paying for demo reports,,,read my post,,,,i explained a few ways to get them at no cost,,,and they are "specific" to the market,,,if you get them from the local sources I laid out in the post....

has nothing to do with being paranoid at all,,,it's all about education and letting everyone on here know ALL of the different ways to accomplish what they need to. You of all people, with your years of experience, should know that many many people will believe and listen to anything. Your motive is always geared towards making money, wither you say so or not. You charge for consulting, sell beds, etc. etc. If you tell me or anyone on here that you are not trying to gain business, then I hope you can sleep at night.

It's real simple,,,,do all of the research that you can, and then some more,,,,get plenty of quotes for all work,,,use every resource available. You will see, there's a lot out there to get you where you need to be,,,you don't always have to pay, pay, pay
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has nothing to do with being paranoid at all,,,it's all about education and letting everyone on here know ALL of the different ways to accomplish what they need to. You of all people, with your years of experience, should know that many many people will believe and listen to anything. Your motive is always geared towards making money, wither you say so or not. You charge for consulting, sell beds, etc. etc. If you tell me or anyone on here that you are not trying to gain business, then I hope you can sleep at night.

It's real simple,,,,do all of the research that you can, and then some more,,,,get plenty of quotes for all work,,,use every resource available. You will see, there's a lot out there to get you where you need to be,,,you don't always have to pay, pay, pay
What I hope people see is the best way to market is to offer what the competition is not, change the focus to what is really important. While all manufacturers and distributors, and there are hundreds of them are trying to sell equipment by selling the fact that they make the best, strongest, most beautiful equipment that will spray you, tan you and soon. I choose to address the more important issue, how to open a salon and be successful at it. Picking out equipment is easy opening and operating a salon is what keeps you awake at night. Of course i am in business to make money, I found a way of doing so by offering and promoting what the competition does not. This is the same intelligent marketing that I teach my clients. The site for the census and the architect that you speak of outside of this industry will give you things that will not help you unless you know how to use the information. If a football teem has the nicest uniforms with the fanciest helmet and the best athletes available they will never win a game without a qualified knowledgeable coach that can teach them how to put everything together into a winning team. That is what I provide no matter how much you attempt to steer people away from me. And trust me Excitedguy, if you actually own a salon I could show you how to be more profitable. I speak to people everyday that have made serious obvious mistakes after opening a salon with bits and pieces of information they get from forums and salesmen that have never operated a salon. That is not to say they always get bad information, they just don't know how to properly use the information.

It is good that you follow all of my post and have post in return, the conversations that you and I are having allow a lot of information to be exposed and gives people choices like go get a census report and try and make heads or tails from it or get a custom Tanning Salon report with only the information that is needed to evaluate a location. And they are both free. Thank you excited guy for keeping these threads active. I bet if you had a friend that needed an attorney you would tell them, don't get an attorney, wait until they assign a public defender they are free and you get the same thing.
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Excitedguy, I just took the time to look at all of the threads that you started. You where exactly the person that needed help and was not sure where to get it. you where armed with bits and pieces of information that took you two years to put together. Everyone should go back and look at the threads that you started, this is a perfect example of why people need help. You just started building your salon and yet now you are an expert on what new salon owners should do. From what I read I would bet the ranch that you are leaving lots of potential income on the table. One of the first things you needed help with is not being able to tell your architect how much AC you need. My clients never struggle with any of the issues you where here looking for help with. You got lots of different answers, which answer was the correct one? Nothing like getting some qualified help.
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Excitedguy, I just took the time to look at all of the threads that you started. You where exactly the person that needed help and was not sure where to get it. you where armed with bits and pieces of information that took you two years to put together. Everyone should go back and look at the threads that you started, this is a perfect example of why people need help. You just started building your salon and yet now you are an expert on what new salon owners should do. From what I read I would bet the ranch that you are leaving lots of potential income on the table. One of the first things you needed help with is not being able to tell your architect how much AC you need. My clients never struggle with any of the issues you where here looking for help with. You got lots of different answers, which answer was the correct one? Nothing like getting some qualified help.
Hey Genius,,,,yes I have spoke with peeople on here about AC, Beds, etc. etc. You have never seen me once ask about, is this the right place to buiild, demographics, my local market, pricing, etc. etc. This is not my first rodeo genius, it is the fiirst one that I have built from the ground up. The reson I ask about AC, was not because I didn't know how much to usee, but rather how much are others using per their beds. Big difference in this and what to do entirely. It had nothing to do wiith tellimg him how much I needed, I was simply stating that the mech engineer was arguing with me whenn I told him to reduce the amount of AC, because I "knew what I was talking about and how much we needed and he didin't because he never owned or operated a salon, and I have thus I knew how much we would need". You need to fully read everything, I have noticed you've made a few commnents about what I have "said" thus far, and you have been wrong on everyone. Read, Read, Read, what someone types and don't "spin" it and state something different. If you spent all that time today to go back and collect two years worht of threads, maybe you aren't as busy with your "consulting" business as I thought you were. BTW, that is the key example, yes I have spoken with a lot of people here and in other arenas, about tanning and many other related subjects, THAT IS MY ENTIRE POINT, IT COST MEE NOTHING TO DO SO!!!!!!

Again, POINT BLANK, YOU ARE SOLICITING A SEERVICE AND TRYING TO MAKE MONEY, BUT YOU HAVE A HARD TIME CALLING A SPADE AND SPADE. \

If you want to mak a liviing consulting aand solicit on this site, I have no problems with that, all I was tryiing to do was point out that with a little self motivation, due dilligence and investigating, people can do most of this on their own.

Aas far as leaving money on the table. I would love to know how you can come to this conclusion when you know nothing about my market, my business plan, my current pricing structure, etc. etc. You need tto stop assuming that EVERYONE out here is dumb and neds a hand to hold.
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Hey Genius,,,,yes I have spoke with peeople on here about AC, Beds, etc. etc. You have never seen me once ask about, is this the right place to buiild, demographics, my local market, pricing, etc. etc. This is not my first rodeo genius, it is the fiirst one that I have built from the ground up. The reson I ask about AC, was not because I didn't know how much to usee, but rather how much are others using per their beds. Big difference in this and what to do entirely. It had nothing to do wiith tellimg him how much I needed, I was simply stating that the mech engineer was arguing with me whenn I told him to reduce the amount of AC, because I "knew what I was talking about and how much we needed and he didin't because he never owned or operated a salon, and I have thus I knew how much we would need". You need to fully read everything, I have noticed you've made a few commnents about what I have "said" thus far, and you have been wrong on everyone. Read, Read, Read, what someone types and don't "spin" it and state something different. If you spent all that time today to go back and collect two years worht of threads, maybe you aren't as busy with your "consulting" business as I thought you were. BTW, that is the key example, yes I have spoken with a lot of people here and in other arenas, about tanning and many other related subjects, THAT IS MY ENTIRE POINT, IT COST MEE NOTHING TO DO SO!!!!!!

Again, POINT BLANK, YOU ARE SOLICITING A SEERVICE AND TRYING TO MAKE MONEY, BUT YOU HAVE A HARD TIME CALLING A SPADE AND SPADE. \

If you want to mak a liviing consulting aand solicit on this site, I have no problems with that, all I was tryiing to do was point out that with a little self motivation, due dilligence and investigating, people can do most of this on their own.

Aas far as leaving money on the table. I would love to know how you can come to this conclusion when you know nothing about my market, my business plan, my current pricing structure, etc. etc. You need tto stop assuming that EVERYONE out here is dumb and neds a hand to hold.

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Consultants are great for those who don't have a clue where to start or no ambition, but I think lots of things can be done independatly, IMO.
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