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Old 11-18-2014, 04:34 PM   #31 (permalink)
 
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In order to gain the medical field's backing we would first need to provide them with intelligent, unbiased secondary research. This would prompt the movement towards primary research that medical professionals would heed. It would further need an extensive amount of primary research as reference. If we could pull that type of research off we would start to gain a stronger foot-hold against the anti-tan establishment.
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Old 11-19-2014, 12:20 PM   #32 (permalink)
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My question to the ITA is why have we not pushed the Vitamin D message more?

In the settlement with the FTC it says:
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Under its settlement with the Commission, the association is prohibited from making the misrepresentations challenged in the complaint, from misrepresenting any tests or studies, and from providing deceptive advertisements to members. The settlement also requires that future association ads that make safety or health benefits claims for indoor tanning may not be misleading and must be substantiated. Further, the order requires that certain future advertisements from the association contain disclosures. Ads that make claims about the safety or health benefits of indoor tanning are required to clearly and prominently make this disclosure:

“NOTICE: Exposure to ultraviolet radiation may increase the likelihood of developing skin cancer and can cause serious eye injury.”

Ads that claim exposure to ultraviolet radiation produces vitamin D in the body, or make other claims about the effectiveness or usefulness of indoor tanning products or services for the body’s generation of vitamin D, must clearly and prominently make this disclosure:

“NOTICE: You do not need to become tan for your skin to make vitamin D. Exposure to ultraviolet radiation may increase the likelihood of developing skin cancer and can cause serious eye injury.”
I would love to see the ITA take advantage of this & make some posters, marketing materials for salons to use in-store & in ads.

Who cares about disclaimers- they are on everything....
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And exposing the sunscreen scam...
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Old 11-20-2014, 07:57 AM   #34 (permalink)
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And exposing the sunscreen scam...
I don't agree with that, that is not the ITA's fight.
That's more for the Vitamin D Council....
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Sure, the Vit D council would be excellent to have on board as well , as their primary focus is health benefit. Especially, the harmful effects of not enough sunlight and the carcinogenic properties of sunscreen.

But for us, the actual foundation of sunscare was methodically put in place by derms uniting to corner the market for profit. Joe Public does not know and exposing who's in bed w/who would be an offensive tactic to shake the sunscare foundation at the core.

The object of the game is to get Joe Public to question the info that has pounded in their heads on every level. I personally believe that we will eventually win this fight b/c truth is on our side. People instictively know that the sun (and sunbeds) give you more energy, makes you feel good and flock in droves to sunny vacation spots, etc.

They are only covering up and avoiding sun due to brainwashing. I don't think they WANT to, I think they feel they HAVE to for health benefits. Blowing the lid off that is what will be the game changer.

Now if your saying that it's not ITA's job due to money, bodies and financial constraints, then I absolutely agree with you. They are spread so thin and are contributing so much of their own time and money already, that it's pretty much impossible to do little else than attempt to put out small fires as they present.
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Sure, the Vit D council would be excellent to have on board as well , as their primary focus is health benefit. Especially, the harmful effects of not enough sunlight and the carcinogenic properties of sunscreen.

But for us, the actual foundation of sunscare was methodically put in place by derms uniting to corner the market for profit. Joe Public does not know and exposing who's in bed w/who would be an offensive tactic to shake the sunscare foundation at the core.

The object of the game is to get Joe Public to question the info that has pounded in their heads on every level. I personally believe that we will eventually win this fight b/c truth is on our side. People instictively know that the sun (and sunbeds) give you more energy, makes you feel good and flock in droves to sunny vacation spots, etc.

They are only covering up and avoiding sun due to brainwashing. I don't think they WANT to, I think they feel they HAVE to for health benefits. Blowing the lid off that is what will be the game changer.

Now if your saying that it's not ITA's job due to money, bodies and financial constraints, then I absolutely agree with you. They are spread so thin and are contributing so much of their own time and money already, that it's pretty much impossible to do little else than attempt to put out small fires as they present.
Totally agree here. It can't be an "ITA or 'US'" type of finger pointing game. What is stopping any of us from blogging secondary research articles that start scary the "Joe Publics" of the world into waking up? Look at the Environmental Working Group. http://www.ewg.org/2014sunscreen/the...een-chemicals/ I don't know much about the EWG but they have a rating system for common FDA-Approved sunscreen chemicals. The one I found in my DC SPF-15 lip balm has to the top two offending chemicals in it. Keep in mind the directions say "apply liberally before sun exposure..." The top two ingredients are Octinoxate and oxybenzone. What's interesting is that we can't necessarily scare anyone with the "OMG it's gonna cause cancer," approach. Oddly enough a bunch of dermatologists say this is totally safe and been in good standing for nearly 20 years (oxybenzone, that is). The EWG says that oxybenzone is definitely BAD. One of its primary side effects is hormone imbalance as it acts like estrogen. With the rise of evironmental estrogen in the world as a whole this is definitely a serious side effect. We know that research shows an SPF of 15 blocks 99.9% of UVA/UVB if I'm not mistaken and in this case the liberal application of the product in question is on the lips. This stuff is not just being soaked into the skin but most likely licked and thus completely ingested. I would wager that we could bring the oxybenzone full circle back to cancer by pointing out that males with artificially elevated estrogen levels are at higher risks for certain cancers. Now, long drawn out examples like this are great for those of us behind the scenes willing to read and do the research. For Joe Public though, we need to present the hormonal imbalances in a big way. This again requires peer reviewed primary research cited in secondary research.
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Yes, here's more:

Cosmetics giant Neutrogena, whose parent company Johnson & Johnson has allowed the use of potentially cancer-causing chemicals in their products (and only announced in August 2012 that they would be removing them by the end of 2015), has taken on an unlikely new partner: The Canadian Cancer Society (CCS).

Their goal?

To educate Canadians about reducing their risk of skin cancer, which will undoubtedly include the potentially harmful advice to slather on loads of sunscreen (preferably Neutrogena brand).

In addition to Neutrogena contributing $200,000 to support skin cancer research (over $1 million since this started), the company has even provided 200,000 sunscreen samples to be distributed at Cancer Society events and committed to executing "a national campaign to educate Canadians on the importance of using sunscreen."1

For Neutrogena, it's a marketing match made in heaven … but what does this mean for the public?

You can't respect the advice that CCS provides on sun exposure, as it has been tainted by their relationship with for-profit partner Neutrogena. This is a direct conflict of interest.

A scathing 2011 CBC investigative report in Canada even found that the proportion of funding that the CCS spends on research projects has been cut in half, dropping to 22% from over 40% in 2000. Funds have been diverted from research to be used for fundraising.2

This means for every dollar donated by Canadians to the CCS, only 22 cents actually goes to research. Pitiful … and one of the lowest rates for all charitable foundations in Canada.
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Now THIS is gold. Dr. Mercola just busted the roof off with his new book. The way is now officially paved for us!

Here are just a few excerpts:

"New Light Shed on the Healing Qualities of Sunlight"

New book by Dr. Mercola Reveals
all, despite decades of Dark Deception...

And as long as you believe the deceptions, the lies, and the propaganda you've been fed all these years about the perils of sunlight -- those who stand to make millions of dollars from your fears remain content and happy.

They have you right where they want you…

Frightened
Sick
Dependent on harmful medications
And spending your hard-earned money on senseless and potentially dangerous products -- products you don't need and don't want near, let alone on your body.

Why have you been duped into believing sunlight is something to fear and avoid -- when current research points to the exact opposite?

Dark Deception Sheds the Light on Your Good Health

Wouldn't you love to know the secrets to:

Actually decrease your risk of cancer?
Enhance the functioning of all your body's organs?
Lift your spirits, chase away your blues, and improve your overall sense of well-being?
Building muscle and maintaining your ideal weight?
Possibly prevent the devastating effects of Alzheimer's disease?

AND:

The Shocking Truth Behind the Billion-Dollar Sunscreen Industry

Once the stage was set for the great sunshine panic, the finest remedy to come along was the miracle of sunscreen.

It promised to protect you from any of the evil sun's rays ever reaching your skin. And it did a great job. The only problem is -- all those lotions and creams have probably done more harm than good in the long run.

Dark Deception turns the spotlight on the dishonest scare tactics of the sunscreen industry:

Warning! All those "cures" for sunburn could be making you sick… Page 16
Discover who really benefits from the use of sunscreen (and guess what -- it's not you)… Page 155
Four simple rules for getting the right amount of sun… Page 142
Seven sunburn factors to keep in mind when you're sunbathing… Go to pages 145-146
Why you should never let sunscreen touch your skin… Page 153
If you want to avoid wrinkles and skin cancer, then don't do this… Find it on page 152
Are you starting to suspect who the real culprits are when it comes to risking your health?

Here's the link for anyone interested:
http://products.mercola.com/dark-dec..._rid=744870283
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"Cosmetics giant Neutrogena, whose parent company Johnson & Johnson has allowed the use of potentially cancer-causing chemicals in their products (and only announced in August 2012 that they would be removing them by the end of 2015), has taken on an unlikely new partner: The Canadian Cancer Society (CCS)."

The CCS also gets 2$ for every bottle of neutrogena sunscreen sold in Canada.What I find so very ironic is that birth control pills are also listed as a level one carcinogen by the WHO.Yet the CCS remains silent about this.I have only seen it mentioned once by them on a facebook post.And that was most likely an accident.So who makes birth control pills and mass markets them to teens? Why Johnson and Johnson,the owners of neutrogena sunscreen.So does the CCS get paid via sunscreen to beat the drums about our evil friend the sun and it's even more evil partner ...tanning beds?

Or are they being paid to keep their mouths shut about birth control,taken daily by tens of thousands of teens!

And the real kicker here is that the sun is the source of all life on earth.You cannot live without it.And birth control pills were designed to prevent the formation of life.Let me donate some money to the CCS!!!

The problem with talking about vit d in tanning salons is just that,you are talking about vit d.Which is shown to prevent many cancers and extend life.We are stepping on the kazzilion $$ cancer industry.There have been people thrown in jail for curing cancer.There have been people run out of the country for talking about cures that work.

So we as the tanning industry are already stepping on dermatological and pharmaceutical $$$$ with our sunbeds undeniable ability to successfully treat skin disorders like psoriasis.

And we now dare to talk about providing vitamin d?We ****** a whole lot of the wrong people off.Face it.The north american culture is ripe with corruption.So even if you are right and truthful it matters not.

I have been in this biz for 30 years.I used to ask myself what would happen if they were to discover that this is truly bad for people.What I never thought of it that they would resort to outright lies,but they have.

So the tanning industry is up against a very evil monster.And that monster also controls the govt.
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I have 3 PSA radio spots by Dr. Cannell and Dr. Mercola if you want to use them
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