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AJCLUVSLCK 01-31-2006 04:11 PM

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MY SIS-IN-LAW IS 3 MOS PREGNANT AND CONSIDERING TANNING. IS THIS SAFE? I TOLD HER MAYBE SHE SHOULD WAIT UNTIL THE BABINO IS BORN. YOU SEE SHE IS VERY IMPATIENT....SOMEONE PLEASE HELP

scub 01-31-2006 04:15 PM

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I don't see any prob with it if she wants to do it. Tell her though to go in mornings when beds are cool...heat is an issue ...same as hot baths and hot tubs...

TikiTanGod 01-31-2006 04:44 PM

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My wife is pregnant and has not been able to tan one time since we opened our salon. Her doctor told her (as well as read in magazines) that she should not tan because it would raise her body temperature too high.

sunnie side up 01-31-2006 04:44 PM

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I have had a few pregnant women tan up until almost due date just keep them in a cool room tell them to use the fan and get out if they feel hot or uncomfortable . I also always tell them it's their dr.s descression . but if they over heat it can cause pre term labor so keep coooool and you'll be fine

Sheila in Minnesota 01-31-2006 05:14 PM

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I spent EVERY DAY on the beach during my entire last pregnancy.... between 5-7 hours per day (had two young ones already and a hubby working 3rd shift at the time).....

Quite a bit more exposure than ever gotten inside a tanning bed I can assure you ~

There is no danger to the baby with the exceptions as stated.... really HOT beds (ambient temps over 100 degrees) are not good for the mom or the baby.... but the actual UV rays never 'reach' the fetus.... and infact, tanning in moderation will help both mom and baby and their need for Vitamin D 3 .....

Common sense (a thing that when left up to many MDs is in short supply) is the key here....

If she has NO BASE TAN at this time.... she will need to go very slowly at first.... Hormones in the first tri are raging ---- and could lead to her being extra sensitive to UV.....

Any expectant mom needs to be well hydrated - - - and this is an issue for tanners as well.... So water before and after each session should be a given.

Depending on what part of the country she lives in ---- indoor tanning may be her only REAL good source of vitamin D3 and a relaxed smile.....

I'd say she needs to be at a GREAT SALON.... one that really knows their stuff and gives a rat's *** about their clients.... then go for it :)

clubtan1 01-31-2006 05:14 PM

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IT"S HER BODY CORE TEMP that needs to kept constant. I doubt very much that a 20 minute tanning session would raise a persons BODY CORE TEMP beyond normal levels if the room is cool and there's a fan blowing on her. If a doctor ONLY tells a to-be mom not to tan, FIRE HIM! He hasn't told you the important things. NO hot tubs, hot baths, long hot showers or staying out in the heat all day as those things can cause the body CORE TEMP to rise. If she gets a fever from say, the flu, get here to the doctor NOW! As her body CORE TEMP rises, so goes the fetus brain temp and it can't handle much of a rise to stay healthy.

clubtan1 01-31-2006 05:16 PM

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and I agree with S~ ^^^^

clubtan1 01-31-2006 05:27 PM

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Big smooch back S~ I think 1,600 rep points is some sort of record.
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Just 4 more post to break 2,000

tnannie 01-31-2006 05:36 PM

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What the majority have said above ^^^ it's her body temp that she needs to keep an eye on. I'm with you Sheila, I lived in California and was at the pool everyday when I was pregnant with my two oldest children. As scub has said, have her tan early in the day while the beds are cool and just don't over do it. :)

totaleclipse1 01-31-2006 09:49 PM

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interesting i have a new mom t obe tanning as well.. I told her take it slow and try to stay cool...

SandiGirl 01-31-2006 10:10 PM

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Quote:

Common sense (a thing that when left up to many MDs is in short supply) is the key here....
Oh yesssss, just made a post about one earlier....

lady bug 01-31-2006 10:14 PM

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A 20 min session is not going to raise her core temp, she is NOT in a hot tub or a microwave. However always have them talk to their doc...

tnannie 02-01-2006 09:06 AM

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Good point Ladybug, the customer should talk to their physician first just as an added safety measure. I have only had a few pregnant gals tan, but all of them came in with notes from their doctors first.

glamarama 02-01-2006 09:19 AM

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none of the salons in our area allow pregnant women to tan - i thought it was regulation in Ontario - lady bug or any other Canadians, do you allow pregnant tanners?

We have had a few & we have them sign a waiver

missyhot 02-01-2006 11:44 AM

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The majority here seems to think it would be OK........My opinion is WHY CHANCE IT AT ALL? I would personally not tan if I were pregnant. That is life, why would you take any risk whatsoever but then again I know women who smoked through there entire pregnancy.

clubtan1 02-01-2006 12:47 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by missyhot
I would personally not tan if I were pregnant. That is life, why would you take any risk whatsoever...

If a pregnant woman really didn't want to take "any risk whatsoever", they would be best to stay in their bed 24/7. Yet doing that, is a risk in itself. Women who are pregnant drive cars, go to work, fly in planes, walk up and down stairs and engage in many other activities that are common in everyday life. I'm not sure but, I think women have been having babies for at least a 100 years now. Might be longer though.http://www.tantalk.com/gallery/files/10902-slap.gif

missyhot 02-01-2006 01:40 PM

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missyhot 02-01-2006 01:40 PM

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Club, I didn't know they had tanning beds 100 years ago............hehehe

Driving car's and going to work is a necessity, Tanning Isn't...

scub 02-01-2006 01:57 PM

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As a salon onwer in Ontario, yes we let them tan when they are pregnant, we advise them to see their Doc before hand but to treat it like they would outdoors, will they still go outside in summer if they're pregnant...yes. We have had women tan with us upto and including the day they deliver. As has been stated, it is a heat issue and of course a comfort issue as they get bigger, not real easy getting in and out of tanning bed with beachball in your belly...lol

tnannie 02-01-2006 02:03 PM

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what scub and clubby say^

glamarama 02-01-2006 03:28 PM

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Thanks Scub! I was under the false impression we couldn't in ON . . . double checked & it is a clause in our insurance to get the second waiver in addition to the standard tanners- I am going to call our broker & ask about this again

clubtan1 02-01-2006 03:38 PM

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missyhot - pregnant woman driving cars and going to work is not a necessity. 100 years ago women would be out in the fields plowing the lower forty in the hot sun all day, have the kid, clean it off and go back to finish the plowing.

scub 02-01-2006 03:45 PM

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Amen to the real women of days of old....just kidding ladies....lol

cametotalktan 02-01-2006 05:24 PM

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I am really surprised noone mentioned drinking water prior to tanning to cool off.

Sheila in Minnesota 02-01-2006 06:46 PM

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Rut Row!! Somebody's been skim reading my posts!!!! :ttangel:


Quote:

....Any expectant mom needs to be well hydrated - - - and this is an issue for tanners as well.... So water before and after each session should be a given.


Missy ~ I know you are going to think I am 'starting something' .... but I am really concerned by your stance on this ~ as well as comments about the 'necessity' for indoor tanning....

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The majority here seems to think it would be OK........My opinion is WHY CHANCE IT AT ALL? I would personally not tan if I were pregnant. That is life, why would you take any risk whatsoever but then again I know women who smoked through there entire pregnancy.


You seem to have some of the SAME anti-tan brainwashed ideas about our services..... and have not understood the real BENEFITS of UV to life ~ ~ it's neccessity for healthy living.

If you truly believe that indoor tanning is dangerous ~ how could you be in the business?

To me .... to deprive someone from indoor tanning (espeically at this time of the year in my neck of the woods)... well, it would be like denying them clean water to drink or clean air to breath....

To equate Tanning while pregnant and Smoking while pregnant like you have..... well, I got to say ~ ~ I honestly don't know HOW you got to this point.

lady bug 02-01-2006 09:24 PM

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No to my knowledge there are no regulations anywhere in Canada, prohibiting preggy's tanning. I have no problem with it. Also if there is any uncertainty by you or the client, do not encourage the tanning and "signing a waiver" will never cover your a**. A thought- if a "nervous mom" tans, and say gets drunk everynight/falls down/ or improper nutrition then miscarries, then blame will not go on those other sources but onto that tanning session, and/or your business..

TANZONE1127 02-01-2006 09:28 PM

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We freeze their packages until after birth, simply because some people will blame tanning for all problems that may occur. Just seems safer.

Sheila in Minnesota 02-01-2006 09:45 PM

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and the beat goes on......

CarlsbadTan 02-01-2006 10:19 PM

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Personal opinion - not a good idea to let a woman tan if pregnant. Liability is much too great ... even if it had nothing to do with the tanning, if there is a problem with the baby, they will search for reasons, and it's just subjecting yourself to the risk of being blamed. Most (not tall) tanning beds DO increase your body temperature more than laying in the sun. Our HP beds have cooling systems, and would probably be the best bet ... but it would still make me nervous.

Sheila in Minnesota 02-02-2006 09:03 AM

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I've been in HP that would fry an egg..... so I'm not a fan of that option ~ ~ also... with the premise that we NEED uvB to stimulate the healthy processes - seems like a waste of time..... but that is just my opinion.


One thing I will *note* .....

and again ~ ~ it's my opinion......


But anyone that really believes their equipment / services could be a danger to anyone (when used in a sensible way) .... well, I think they should NOT be in the business.

Truly - if you worry about Anti-Tan being RIGHT .....then all the education in the world cannot help you.

I guess there is alot of people that CAN'T sleep at nite????

Consider that most OB/GYNs do 'ok' indoor tanning for their patients .... I guess I can't understand where the confusion and concern comes from within this industry.

Kay 02-02-2006 09:59 AM

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I agree that the liability is higher only to the point of that the woman may have an accident trying to get out of the bed or fainting. But then again that could happen to anyone. UV light cannot hurt the baby it only penetrates skin deep, it never reaches the baby. When it come to dehydration from tanning that is a myth. Dehydration is a condition that occurs when a person loses more fluids than they takes in. it's rare to reach a level of even moderate dehydration during sports or other normal outdoor activity. So when it comes to tanning it would be even more unlikely.

glamarama 02-02-2006 11:07 AM

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I intend to keep on tannin' when I am expecting - i think the vitamin D is a much bigger issue that any of heating if you are otherwise healthy

THANKS LAdy bug - ! while i will allow pregnant ladies to tan, we don't allow drunks - they fall asleep in the beds and annoy the **** outta me!

rgm824 02-02-2006 11:22 AM

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i was given the OK to tan by my OB - he said "anything to make you feel better and moderation"

i tanned until i was 7 1/2 mo. preg. and then switched to the mystic because i no longer could lay comfortably much less getting in and out of the beds i coulda used a winch) -

anyhoo - we ALWAYS have any preg woman ask their doctor first - if there is a prob (high risk preg, doc dead set against it etc) then we will freeze their pkg till after the birth......

SHEILA! all great advice...couldn't have said it better myself.

missyhot 02-02-2006 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Sheila in Minnesota
Rut Row!! Somebody's been skim reading my posts!!!! :ttangel:


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Missy ~ I know you are going to think I am 'starting something' .... but I am really concerned by your stance on this ~ as well as comments about the 'necessity' for indoor tanning....

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You seem to have some of the SAME anti-tan brainwashed ideas about our services..... and have not understood the real BENEFITS of UV to life ~ ~ it's neccessity for healthy living.

If you truly believe that indoor tanning is dangerous ~ how could you be in the business?

To me .... to deprive someone from indoor tanning (espeically at this time of the year in my neck of the woods)... well, it would be like denying them clean water to drink or clean air to breath....

To equate Tanning while pregnant and Smoking while pregnant like you have..... well, I got to say ~ ~ I honestly don't know HOW you got to this point.

Oh Dear Sheila - From the day I opened I made the rule to not allow anyone to tan that is pregnant. They don't have a choice in my salon even if they signed a waiver and had a doctor's note. It has nothing to do with being educated in this field. I do not want the risk of ANYTHING as outlined above, even just a prego. gal getting in and out of a bed, etc. I DON'T WANT THAT LIABILITY! As stated by someone else, if that baby comes out messed up they will look to blame me even if there is not a reason! A new mother of an unhealthy child will look back and always think "Maybe I shouldn't have done this or that and I would guarantee the first thing she'd think is about her tanning sessions". I know someone that lost their baby and thinks like this and blames herself all the time and she did tan. I'M NOT SAYING THE TANNING WAS RELATED!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm only stating that her "what if's" did include she felt guilty for tanning.

Comparing Tanning to Cig's, I only meant that some people think it is fine to smoke while pregnant. I disagree! I'm also not real big on the idea of an expecant mother getting a spray tan and the risk of inhaling the chemicals JMO!

OK NOW - LET'S NOT GET DING HAPPY BECAUSE YA"ALL DISAGREE

IT'S JUST HOW I FEEL ABOUT IT AND MY OPINION IS NOT GOING TO CHANGE! PERIOD!

clubtan1 02-02-2006 12:17 PM

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Point well taken Missyhot. There are people who just look to sue someone for anything that goes wrong in their life.

Sheila in Minnesota 02-02-2006 01:08 PM

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Why get out of bed then?

They could slip on your floor..... (!!!!)

They could break a mirror in the room and bleed to death... (!!!!!)

They could be overcome by another tanner's After Tan Stench... (!!!)

(honey there was no need for 'caps' .... your font size is perfectly fine for my poor old eyes ~ )

I stand by my assessment.... that for anyone that believes there is bodily risk to their clients FROM UV LIGHT ..... (especially a good salon operator that only does things right) .... it's time to open up a Dairy Queen and kill em via congestive heart failure.

missyhot 02-02-2006 01:20 PM

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The thought of owning a Dairy Queen is quite appealing to me these days.......

Sheila in Minnesota 02-02-2006 01:30 PM

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Peanut Buster bars and the freeken bomb!!! :)

kpatrick74 02-27-2006 11:48 PM

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Here's my point of view on this issue and I am a) a salon owner and b) in my second pregnancy (currently 17 weeks) since opening my salon.

I tan with my Dr's permission. However, since I know that most problems will occur during the first trimester of pregnancy I don't tan. I have suffered from a miscarriage in the past (no I wasn't tanning at that time) and wanted to blame it on anything possible. It was overwhelming. So, I personally will not tan during the 1st trimester and will not allow clients to tan during the 1st trimester. Once I explain this to them they are very understanding.

I will tan them after 1st trimester but only with their Dr's permission in writing - no liability issues that way and with the understanding that I (not them) control what bed they use and how long they tan for. My dr (who is a good friend) tells her patients when they ask about tanning that they can but only if they come to my salon b/c she knows I will take care of them and not let them tan too long. :)

ChristineE 02-28-2006 07:57 AM

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I tanned during my pregnancy. I also ate french fries like every day.

Which do you guys think is more harmful??


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