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Old 11-05-2015, 10:10 AM   #11 (permalink)
 
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What's been the impact of the Under 18 Ban passed by your legislature? We'll be fighting it again in Iowa next year and I'd like to have some hard data to present on the actual business impact of these bans.

My guess is that you not only lost the 18 and under tanners but also their moms and others who decided that tanning must really be bad if teenagers aren't allowed.
We have had the under 18 ban for about 5 years now, no negative impact at all.
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Old 11-05-2015, 10:51 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Old 11-05-2015, 01:54 PM   #13 (permalink)
 
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What's been the impact of the Under 18 Ban passed by your legislature? We'll be fighting it again in Iowa next year and I'd like to have some hard data to present on the actual business impact of these bans.

My guess is that you not only lost the 18 and under tanners but also their moms and others who decided that tanning must really be bad if teenagers aren't allowed.
I really couldn't say what the $$$ affect is with the under 18 ban. There have been other factors that have kept business down. The under 18 ban has definitely put a cloud over the industry. You are definitely right in saying that it also affects their over 18 friends and family.

We are located next to a college so our season starts in September and is over at the end of April. It has been slow to start. The school is probably the only 4 year university with declining enrollment. They have lost ~25% of undergraduates in the last five years. No amount of advertising or specials will overcome that loss of population.
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Old 11-06-2015, 01:04 PM   #14 (permalink)
 
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We have been declining every month compared to the last years in # of tanners, new customers, and $$ since May. I think the other 2 salons in town are also as our local STC if offering some really low specials not seen in other cities with comparable populations. Our population is around 28,000 and we have 3 tanning salons. I rarely see the college kids anymore, if at all, and our salon is the closest one to them. Didn't pass the 18 year old ban here in Iowa, but all that negative media and surprisingly, how many people think it went through. All they heard was the news of the "probable" ban, but the news never reported anywhere that it didn't pass.
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Steve, how did your salon do?
Actually the salons I work with did very well, most were up as they should be but others held steady against the previous year even though they are all up over 2014. Increases are a little less than in previous years but we are expecting a great 2016 season, thank you for asking. I am also very excited about the very first tanning salon in Thailand opening soon. I have been working with this client for almost 6 years to get this salon open.
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Old 11-10-2015, 11:48 AM   #16 (permalink)
 
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We have had the under 18 ban for about 5 years now, no negative impact at all.
kookyguy is actually right for most markets. If you run a report to see how much income is produced by under 18 you will be surprised to find it is a very low %. Kookyguy is obviously doing things to drive business in light of what is going on in his market and tanning industry.
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Old 11-10-2015, 12:20 PM   #17 (permalink)
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kookyguy is actually right for most markets. If you run a report to see how much income is produced by under 18 you will be surprised to find it is a very low %. Kookyguy is obviously doing things to drive business in light of what is going on in his market and tanning industry.

As per norm you are sooo wrong...........

Kookys numbers may not reflect any damage, but any time somthing negative happens in our industry it affects us all.
New salons wont notice any thing because they never had them to start with.

Back when we were all making money, Parents would bring their 15 and 16 year child in with them for home coming, proms and spring break, Thus creating our future tanners.
We have no future tanners now.
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Actually the salons I work with did very well, most were up as they should be but others held steady against the previous year even though they are all up over 2014. Increases are a little less than in previous years but we are expecting a great 2016 season, thank you for asking. I am also very excited about the very first tanning salon in Thailand opening soon. I have been working with this client for almost 6 years to get this salon open.
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kookyguy is actually right for most markets. If you run a report to see how much income is produced by under 18 you will be surprised to find it is a very low %. Kookyguy is obviously doing things to drive business in light of what is going on in his market and tanning industry.
Why do I even bother reading this crap? Somebody slap me. Please.
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Old 11-10-2015, 05:42 PM   #19 (permalink)
 
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As per norm you are sooo wrong...........

Kookys numbers may not reflect any damage, but any time somthing negative happens in our industry it affects us all.
New salons wont notice any thing because they never had them to start with.

Back when we were all making money, Parents would bring their 15 and 16 year child in with them for home coming, proms and spring break, Thus creating our future tanners.
We have no future tanners now.
Under 18 want to tan and look forward to when they can. The tanning industry and consumers in general are changing. When the rules change you adjust how you market your business. If you were so dependent on under 18 tanners to be successful you were doing something wrong. The under 18 ban has had a positive effect on spray tanning . All of those high school events and tanners should be marketed for spray tanning .

There are always things that can be done to adjust your business because of regulations, negative publicity and economic times.

Something as simple as bad weather can effect business short term. If you monitor your business running reports evaluating performance you can determine where adjustments should be made. I find that if you aggressively work on things that you can control instead of complaining about things you can't control you can drive the level of success for your salon. Just because your numbers are down does not suggest all salon numbers are down. I find that the difference in how different salons are operated is huge and while some salons maintain or increase sales others will decline. This in most cases can be controlled to a degree based on your business model and how well you execute your plan.

For those operators like kookyguy that are performing at a level that affords increased sales, it is not an accident.
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Old 11-10-2015, 05:49 PM   #20 (permalink)
 
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Why do I even bother reading this crap? Somebody slap me. Please.
I hope you are reading in the hope of learning something. Try to be open to everything you read. If you don't like what you read ignore it but never stop reading. I am astonished by much of what I read but I keep reading. I am always learning something. I learned that you want to be slapped.
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