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Old 06-15-2015, 09:32 AM   #41 (permalink)
 
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I've seen some some credible salon owners on here with "big" salons vouch for Mr. Underhill. If I was a new salon I'd at least try his free demographic report and see for yourself. Hating on him hasn't helped in the many many years I've been on these sites. Just useless negative energy imo. Ignore him if you don't like him.
Smart salon owners, may be friends with Steve, and may say nice things about him, but they never need to give him money.

If you need to hire Steve, you're NOT a good salon owner!

Demographic reports are free for anyone at anytime, anyone that owns a retail business of any kind and hasn't looked at demographic reports hasn't created a business plan and should NOT be in business.

Steve is a nice guy, no one is "hating on him" those of us that have been on this and other forums for the last 15 years are sick of the way he "fishes" for business. We have had this discussion far too many times for far too many years.
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Old 06-15-2015, 04:12 PM   #42 (permalink)
 
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I've seen some some credible salon owners on here with "big" salons vouch for Mr. Underhill. If I was a new salon I'd at least try his free demographic report and see for yourself. Hating on him hasn't helped in the many many years I've been on these sites. Just useless negative energy imo. Ignore him if you don't like him.
Any SCORE or SBA office or Chamber of Commerce could supply a demographics...any major college or university that has a good business program could supply one researched by marketing/business majors...
Steve would say, ' they are not tan specific'...I say, tanning business is about sales and marketing..a demographic should address the buying potential of a given area, not if they tan.

Steve's demo reports are a, 'bait and fish' tactic.

And before, Steve bashing ends, he has a lot of apologizing to do to many on here..

Kookyguy is right on..
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He's not going to give so much information away because it's his job and how he makes money, you wouldn't either! He has been in the industry a long time and knows a lot and yes some people could benefit from this, my issue with him is that he never takes into account what is really going on in this industry! 5 years ago their were 18,000- tanning salons, now their are only 8,500- left! This industry is only going down hill and fast!
There is a bill going thru legislation now that could ban tanning salons, they're looking at a 5 year plan, meaning they'll give us 5 years and then were all done!
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What bill is this?
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He's not going to give so much information away because it's his job and how he makes money, you wouldn't either! He has been in the industry a long time and knows a lot and yes some people could benefit from this, my issue with him is that he never takes into account what is really going on in this industry! 5 years ago their were 18,000- tanning salons, now their are only 8,500- left! This industry is only going down hill and fast!
There is a bill going thru legislation now that could ban tanning salons, they're looking at a 5 year plan, meaning they'll give us 5 years and then were all done!
What bill?
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What bill is this?
there is no bill. someone on the other site posted a link to an article that links to this article in which the author proposes a ban. Next thing you know everyone thinks some 5 year ban bill has been proposed. Peeps need to chill!!!

http://new.sagepub.com/content/early...86416.abstract
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My thoughts exactly. That bs came across my Facebook feed yesterday. Took a few mins to realize it wasn't legit. geeze. They must be confusing the Tan Tax Repeal with that article. I haven't been online a lot.. but hope everyone's season is going well! David
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This is from the ITA-

As previously reported, there are two rulemakings affecting this industry currently pending at the FDA. One is a package of amendments to the performance standard (21CFR 1040.20), which has been percolating at FDA for years which the reclassification order last May warned would be forthcoming. The other is a proposed rule that would make sunlamp products “restricted devices.” We learned about this last October when FDA sent the proposal to the Office of Management and Budget (OMB) for signoff.

At the end of May, we saw some troubling signs coming out of the FDA. We learned both of these proposed rules have cleared OMB, making each eligible for release at any time. The challenge is that we do not know the details of either proposal and we will not find out until they are published for comment in the Federal Register. However, experience teaches us to expect the worst out of our government, so we are already preparing to respond.

While we have the best regulatory counsel in Washington on standby to prepare our response to anything coming out of the FDA, there are significant costs involved. This is why the Tanning World Expo in September is so important. Every penny the ITA makes on this show will be used to fight these battles; therefore, please support the Tanning World Expo!
They could make tanning beds restricted devices, then we are all done, this is really happening!
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^^^You do realize that Robert is the originator of this post?
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and a Board member of the ITA that sits on the FDA committee.
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