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Old 04-17-2014, 10:27 AM   #41 (permalink)
 
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If I was an outsider looking in- I would not be impressed with the name calling and tone of an experienced multiple shop veteran of the industry.
You have to ask yourself, "why does this guy even care if a "nobody" like me, thinks his system is perfect or not"?

And why would someone so successful, even care about a single salon owner anyway?

Does the owner of 80 McDonalds franchises care about some guy down the road who owns a single "meat and 3" location?

Would he not agree that his business model while successful, is not perfect, and that he has room for improvement? Would he accuse the "meat and 3 guy" of ruining the restaurant industry, and all that restaurant industry needs to do is get rid of all the single owners of "meat and 3" businesses, to make the industry successful?

That is the kind of crap that is spewed on this and other sites all day long on a regular basis. There is only "One right way" to run a tanning salon, one right pricing structure, salon set-up, software, time system, and on and on.

And if you offer a different point of view, these industry know-it-all's bash you personally, and label you the scum of the earth. What other industry does this? Is this a Tanning industry phenom or is it just the state of our society as a whole?

I don't know. But I have been on these sites awhile now, and I see a disturbing pattern. That is, supposed industry experts acting like petulant children, who don't get along well with others, and completely intolerant of others points of view. Again, evidence that this industry lacks real mature leadership. It is the root cause of many of our current industry problems.
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Old 04-17-2014, 10:34 AM   #42 (permalink)
 
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Tony, You want people to think your system is fool proof and the simple fact is that it is not. Banks systems do go down and they are hacked. It can happen, and when an act of God; (weather), and other accidents, or other acts occur, your system is as vulnerable as anyone's.

I do not have to stoop the level of name calling to get my points across, like you do, so I think that it is you who degrade this site.
I will also say that if the leadership of this industry approaches others in their industry the way that you do, it is easy to see why this industry is in the dire straits that it is in. You make my case for poor leadership in this industry everytime you open your mouth.

PS-In 1993, I was one of the first to use computer systems in this business, long before it was common to use timers and computer systems.
A Footnote: In 1993 Questar, and FST were the dominant timer systems controlling tanning beds, not Helios nor Tmax. Computer software was not in wide use at the time, DOS was still the dominant OS; most salons used either cards , or controlled the beds directly using the timer.
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Old 04-17-2014, 04:02 PM   #43 (permalink)
 
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If I was an outsider looking in- I would not be impressed with the name calling and tone of an experienced multiple shop veteran of the industry.
Very understandable why peach and tony both got banned from another tanning site. Peach probably close here too.
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Old 04-17-2014, 09:53 PM   #44 (permalink)
 
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If I was an outsider looking in- I would not be impressed with the name calling and tone of an experienced multiple shop veteran of the industry.
Tan

Are you blind or does the tone of the message mean more to you then
facts? I dont argue with my lawyer or my accountant. So why the heck would
Peach argue with me on technology. Its insanity. Why dont you see that?
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Old 04-17-2014, 09:56 PM   #45 (permalink)
 
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Very understandable why peach and tony both got banned from another tanning site. Peach probably close here too.
I wasnt booted from Tantoday and if i would be it would be by Brian
who will not stand for anyone to rain on his parade. Its where he gets his purpose in life. Peach has a different issue. He is just full of crap and argues about everything he has ZERO knowledge of until its chinese water torture!

This should all be obvious once you take the blinders off
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Old 04-17-2014, 10:03 PM   #46 (permalink)
 
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A Footnote: In 1993 Questar, and FST were the dominant timer systems controlling tanning beds, not Helios nor Tmax. Computer software was not in wide use at the time, DOS was still the dominant OS; most salons used either cards , or controlled the beds directly using the timer.
FST didnt come out until 1994. Computer use was prevalent by then.
I was selling software so dont you think i know????? Questar was killed off quickly by Tmax. DOS was the ONLY OS being used in 1993 in indoor tanning.

So are you saying your some kind of pioneer? Why dont you stop telling us all this nonsense and tell us what version of software you are
on. I am sure its quite old!
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Old 04-17-2014, 10:22 PM   #47 (permalink)
 
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You have to ask yourself, "why does this guy even care if a "nobody" like me, thinks his system is perfect or not"?
You are a nobody so i dont care. Why do you think you can speak for my motives you narcissistic BS'er!

And why would someone so successful, even care about a single salon owner anyway? I agree why would I? Its narcissistic and judgmental for you to think I do :)

Does the owner of 80 McDonalds franchises care about some guy down the road who owns a single "meat and 3" location? This is a very odd and warped comparison you just made seeing how we are not competitors? Although I would love to put 2 or 3 Zoom Tans around you
one day :)




Would he not agree that his business model while successful, is not perfect, ABSOLUTELY and that he has room for improvement? ABSOLUTELY Would he accuse the "meat and 3 guy" of ruining the restaurant industry, and all that restaurant industry needs to do is get rid of all the single owners of "meat and 3" businesses, to make the industry successful? This is a very warped analogy. There are plenty of small 3 store guys that do a fine job representing their businesses and our industry. You however dont!

That is the kind of crap that is spewed on this and other sites all day long on a regular basis. There is only "One right way" to run a tanning salon, one right pricing structure, salon set-up, software, time system, and on and on. WOW are you demented! Where did i say all this you little sick liar? Man your warped :) I know for a fact that other models make plenty of money! You are just so far out there with your vile hatred!

And if you offer a different point of view, these industry know-it-all's bash you personally, and label you the scum of the earth. What other industry does this? Is this a Tanning industry phenom or is it just the state of our society as a whole? When you speak out your butt its obvious. I cant agree with people that CLEARLY have no knowledge of the topic! Calling you sick is not name calling its the state of your mind! Calling you a liar is not name calling its stating what you do! You are just full of crap dude!

I don't know. But I have been on these sites awhile now, and I see a disturbing pattern. The disturbing pattern is losers like you spouting off their BS's. That is, supposed industry experts why is it supposed? 29 years, 80+ stores and 2 software companies dosent give me a little credence? acting like petulant Are you so ignorant that you cant see passion? You call passion petulent? WOW![/color] children, who don't get along well with others, and completely intolerant of others points of view. Again, evidence that this industry lacks real mature leadership. It is the root cause of many of our current industry problems.
The epidemy of arrogance Peach. You accuse me of what you are!

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Old 04-18-2014, 09:37 AM   #48 (permalink)
 
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FST didnt come out until 1994. Computer use was prevalent by then.
I was selling software so dont you think i know????? Questar was killed off quickly by Tmax. DOS was the ONLY OS being used in 1993 in indoor tanning.

So are you saying your some kind of pioneer? Why dont you stop telling us all this nonsense and tell us what version of software you are
on. I am sure its quite old!
Tony, I know the owner of FST personally. I was one of the first to use FST timers and the Sunease software that goes with it. My first salon went online in 1993 and used an FST timer. In 1993 Tmax and Helios did not exist.

Again, Tony, your attempts to make me look stupid have failed. In the process, you look stupid. :)
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Old 04-18-2014, 08:11 PM   #49 (permalink)
 
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Very understandable why peach and tony both got banned from another tanning site. Peach probably close here too.
And for what would I be banned?
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Old 04-19-2014, 12:02 PM   #50 (permalink)
 
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Tony, I know the owner of FST personally. I was one of the first to use FST timers and the Sunease software that goes with it. My first salon went online in 1993 and used an FST timer. In 1993 Tmax and Helios did not exist.

Again, Tony, your attempts to make me look stupid have failed. In the process, you look stupid. :)
You just made my point 100% :) (will explain down below). I meant to say Tmax came out in 1994. I know this because I was the first guy to turn a bed on via a PC through a tmax manager. I know questar and FST where the dominant players until Tmax came out in 1994. I visited Hap the guy that built the FST timers out in CA in 1993. I also visited Questar in Seattle as well. I am the guy that wrote the code for Helios to communicate to all 3 timers! So I know Dude. I lived it and breathed it and CREATED it! You still have that same single salon from 1993 dont you? What version of software are you on now dude? Why wont you tell us? If its Helios is probably version 9.1 or close!

So Peach is on record telling the guy that started Helios that Helios did not exist in 1993! WOW! SHAZAM! BOOM SHAKALAKA! Helios was started in 1988 and by 1993 I had over 1,000 clients using Helios. This is the most ABSURB comment you have ever made and you make lots of them! So Peach your just not Peachy! Once again you speak as an expert when you are nothing but a BS'er!

And for the record i dont try to make people look bad. Thats not my motivation. I have been around tanning since 1985 and have seen all the charlatans, scumbags and BS'er in our industry come and go. I always contest them and/or what they say to stop the deception!

Heck I even defended Heartland against you and i am in a gigantic lawsuit against them! How many people in this world would do that? NOT MANY! Why did I do that? Because you made public judgements against them that where totally false! I am a crusader and i will always crusade for the truth. Hurting you is of zero interest to me!

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