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Old 11-26-2013, 01:47 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Illinois ban on minors

as of the first of the year it says no minors can tan in Illinois is this point blank or can they tan with parents consent what the heck you can join the military at 17 with parents consent its ok to die for your country you just better tan doing it
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I feel for ya....they're trying to kill our industry's future with these laws.
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Old 11-26-2013, 03:56 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I feel for ya....they're trying to kill our industry's future with these laws.
we could have prevented a lot of the miss informative information if we would have banned together and a lobbyist.... first of all the dermatology association is the one behind the trouble and cancer talks..We hurt there business fact is its safer to use a tanning bed instead of a medical booth that they charge insurance company's $300 per use....Persons keep blaming the government yes that's true to a sort but its actually the company's who are pushing the government into it...And now here is one for and im sure it will offend persons its rumored that ERGO is behind this big kick on k2 certification that would make them one of the only tanning bed manufacturing company's able to legally sell tanning beds hmm that's mamma bear killing her cubs
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I have long complained about the ineptitude of our leadership in the tanning industry, to no avail. Most people think the ITA and ASA are great, so what do you do? The biggest players in this biz have been conspiring to eliminate the little guy in this industry while taking our money all the while. Heartland secretly invests in fitness clubs that compete directly against their own customers. There has never been even the slightest public ad campaign to blunt the lies and distortions (and hypocrisy) of the dermatology industry. So why give these groups any of your money? Pick your partners in this industry carefully my friends.
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I have long complained about the ineptitude of our leadership in the tanning industry, to no avail. Most people think the ITA and ASA are great, so what do you do? The biggest players in this biz have been conspiring to eliminate the little guy in this industry while taking our money all the while. Heartland secretly invests in fitness clubs that compete directly against their own customers. There has never been even the slightest public ad campaign to blunt the lies and distortions (and hypocrisy) of the dermatology industry. So why give these groups any of your money? Pick your partners in this industry carefully my friends.
So very true.............
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I feel for ya....they're trying to kill our industry's future with these laws.
tryining? we're dead but just don't know it
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I have long complained about the ineptitude of our leadership in the tanning industry, to no avail. Most people think the ITA and ASA are great, so what do you do? The biggest players in this biz have been conspiring to eliminate the little guy in this industry while taking our money all the while. Heartland secretly invests in fitness clubs that compete directly against their own customers. There has never been even the slightest public ad campaign to blunt the lies and distortions (and hypocrisy) of the dermatology industry. So why give these groups any of your money? Pick your partners in this industry carefully my friends.
Peach....excellent point. All we need to ask ourselves is when have we ever "won" any sort of argument or been on the positive side of any report. We have no unified voice, no spokesman and if we have a lobbyist, he sucks. If someone could unify all the salons and unite their voices and their message we would have a bright future. Our industry truly helps people in many ways. However we die the slow death until big pharma and the derms put us out. Then they will open Vitamin D centers in every city and charge 100.00 a shot a claim its the best thing since sliced bread.
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Yes-I agree we are dying a slow death, and we have never been on the end of any positive PR. However, it does not have to be that way. The problem with all attempts to defend this industry have failed because....we spend all of our time defending our selves. All defense and no offense.

The persecution of our industry is part of a liberal progressive movement. (aka socialist/communist). Their tactics are always the same; you re-write history and you invent propaganda to support the new history and use the instruments of government to enforce this new history. They have done this very effectively without so much as a peep from the industry leadership.

Any attempts by the industry to go on offense have backfired because we fall into the traps that are set for us (aka-we can't make medical claims).

MY tactic would be to go on the offensive; tell the real story of UV light and tanning equipment, without making any medical claims. it can be done and it must be done if we are to survive.
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Here's where ITA stands:

It’s Official…
ITA Recommends, “No Health Claims”
By John P. Ribner | November 2013 | ITA Update

When it comes to making health claims about indoor tanning, the Indoor Tanning Association has taken a firm stand: as a group, its members are against it.
The ITA urges salon owners to stop making health claims about UV tanning services. This means no more boasting about the connection between indoor tanning and vitamin D production in the body, and no more statements such as, “tanning prevents cancer, reduces heart disease and/or prevents diabetes.” The ITA also wants salon professionals to quit referring to indoor tanning as “safe” and/or “safer than tanning outdoors.” Making these types of claims has been against the law for many years now, and the ITA knows from recent experience that the government is actively enforcing it.
“For years, the ITA has gone along with the majority of industry professionals in supporting the link between tanning and vitamin D,” said John Overstreet, ITA Executive Director. “We thought that having scientifically-proven evidence of a positive effect of indoor tanning would help this industry fend off the claims made our detractors each year. As we have come to discover, making these types of claims in a commercial manner has some very serious and expensive consequences.”
Beginning in June 2008, the ITA became entangled in a two-year legal battle with the Federal Trade Commission over health claims made in association with UV tanning. “They began investigating us in the spring of 2008 following a very aggressive pro-tanning PR campaign we initiated earlier that year,” Overstreet explained. “The FTC’s attorneys believed that the claims made in our campaign crossed the line from advocacy into commercial speech, which falls under the jurisdiction of the FTC. The FTC forbids anyone from making claims that could be considered ‘false, misleading, attempting to entice and/or be deceptive.’”
After two long years and a half million dollars in legal fees, the ITA reached a Consent Decree with the FTC. Finalized in December 2009, it allows the ITA to make the claim that UV tanning sessions produce vitamin D3. The consent decree doesn’t put any restrictions on what the ITA says to the media or policymakers. It allows the ITA to continue to have a meaningful voice in the ongoing public debate over the health benefits of appropriate exposure to ultraviolet light, including vitamin
D production in the body, as well as the risks of over exposure, Overstreet explained. However, the ITA voluntarily agreed to refrain from making certain commercial statements “in connection with the manufacturing, labeling, advertising, promotion, offering for sale or distribution of any covered product or service, in or affecting commerce.” The FTC does not dispute the ITA’s position that our bodies produce vitamin D when exposed to ultraviolet light from the sun or a tanning bed. In fact, the settlement provides specific language for the ITA to use when making health benefit claims that acknowledge the production of vitamin D from ultraviolet light.
“Based on our experience with the FTC,” Overstreet said, “we believe that refraining from making health claims is in our industry’s best interest. We strongly encourage all tanning salon operators to follow our lead on this issue, because making these types of claims can have a legal impact at the salon level, as well. The offices of some states’ attorneys general have filed suits against a handful of salon owners for making health claims, and the legal fees and fines associated with these cases have been extremely costly.”
“In recognizing the impact that salon operator training has had on the way salon pros conduct themselves behind the counter, and based on my experience with the FTC, I am happy to endorse training programs that do not promote using health claims in their training, such as Sun Is Life®” Overstreet said. “Because Sun is Life is centered upon this prudent philosophy and offers a solid foundation for salon operation, I think it is an excellent tanning salon training and certification program that all salons should consider.”
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