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Old 09-17-2009, 01:08 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Re: Fantasy Tan Bashes UV Tanning

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I did request that Tantalk ban the words Fantasy Tan from the site a few days ago.
Banning words is not the answer. That is not going to help here. It will just make it more difficult to discuss things of this nature with **** ***** ** *** ****!!!

Blocking and hiding things does not help the situation, taking action does.
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Old 09-17-2009, 01:14 PM   #22 (permalink)
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May I ask what you wrote in your E-mails?
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Are you serious with your website? If you think lead, arsenic, and mercury are safe to atomize, inhale, and apply and absorb into your skin then you have been brainwashed by all of the negative hype in the news and are really not educated on the subject.

Promoting spray tanning is one thing but using UV tanning as a vehicle and then bashing it is not doing this industry any good. You are doing this industry a disservice with your advertising and it is not welcomed and will be brought to the attention of others in the industry to have you either change it and your beliefs on it or be alienated from the industry altogether.

Two can play at this game, so you may want to change your misleading, false information or suffer the consequences of being outed to the industry that you are a part of and trying to bite the hand that feeds you.

Do the right thing and remove the slander to the industry that you belong to.

Releasing the truth about you is not slander as you are blatantly bashing UV tanning on your website all by yourself so simply telling the industry about your goals here will just be enough to let things happen all by themselves as you have already put the nails in your coffin on your own. People will form their own opinions based on facts.

Do the right thing.

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Dear Mr. Oshman,

As I'm sure you know, the International Agency for Research on Cancer
(IARC), part of the World Health Organization, recently published a study on
UV rays/tanning beds in the oncology journal, The Lancet. That study
determined that UV rays/tanning beds should be moved up to the highest
cancer risk category from the previous "probable carcinogen" category. That
"highest risk" category includes products such as asbestos, cigarettes,
mustard gas, arsenic, etc. You may disagree with the IARC's findings, but
their findings are public, and have been picked up by literally hundreds of
media outlets, including TV, print media, and the internet.

Your e-mail message references Fantasy Tan's web site. Your message is
accusatory and includes a number of references to slander. I am assuming
that you are objecting to the White Paper that is available. Let me quote
from our site: "This White Paper is a collection of informative articles and
web sites about the dangers of UVA and UVB tanning from recognized and
independent authorities such as the American Cancer Society, the Skin Cancer
Foundation, the National Cancer Institute, the U.S. Environmental Protection
Agency, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (the FDA’s umbrella
department), the American Medical Association, the Mayo Clinic, the American
Academy of Dermatology, the Melanoma Education Foundation, and the World
Health Organization."

All of the information in this White Paper is from reputable, third-party,
published sources. Fantasy Tan is offering a collection of information
easily accessed through the world wide web, or from the studying/reporting
organizations themselves. I'm sorry that you believe that all of the
above-named organizations are lying, and that we have been misled by the
information that they have published as fact. We felt that they were
credible sources.

I have promised the forum we will review the web site for accuracy and get back to everyone as soon as possible.

Thank you.

Very truly yours,



Lester Szurko, CEO


Fantasy Tan Global Enterprises, LTD.
215 Oswald Avenue
Batavia, IL 60510
630-406-6011
630-406-6133 Fax
www.fantasytan.com
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Old 09-17-2009, 01:35 PM   #23 (permalink)
 
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Hey Fantasy Tan here's the problem. YOU ARE SCARING PEOPLE INTO USING YOUR PRODUCT. PERIOD.

No one cares what your sources are. It doesn't matter. It's called business ethics as in USE THEM. You are working within the UV TANNING INDUSTRY and if you can't see why your marketing tactics would be offensive to some then you don't get to play with us anymore.

You will be shunned from all advertising within the tanning industry. All on line forums, all magazine ads, all tanning salons will be more than happy to support a sunless company that COMPLEMENTS their current setup not THROW IT UNDER A BUS.

And those are the companies that WILL be allowed on the tanning forums and trade mags.

Hundreds selling the same thing you are. No one will miss you.

Yours truly,

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Old 09-17-2009, 01:39 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Re: Fantasy Tan Bashes UV Tanning

Is this the same company that stated their system is like no other on the market?! Yet sells an airbrush and compressor system housed in a hard case for like over 6 g's?

I swore I saw a thread a while back that was EFIN HYSTERICAL!

something about their demonstration at a trade show and lester being exposed for unethical sales tactics ......


wish i could find that thread it was quite entertaining....


I mean if theyre the creators of spray tanning then why are they going to desperate lengths to generate biz by resorting to negative uv tanning bashing?

I mean REALLY!

white papers ROTFL! hahahah their white papers on the dangers of UV tannning... omfg now thats FUNNY!

i didnt know they were selling techincal resources and/or solutions....

why dont they publish and post WHITE PAPERS on their SYSTEM "thats like no other"... a system you could by from tcp global for like 250.00 bucks and house in a freakin camera trunk case! hahahahaha


jackasses

does anyone remember that thread im talking about?

wish i could find it and bump it :P
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Banning words is not the answer. That is not going to help here. It will just make it more difficult to discuss things of this nature with **** ***** ** *** ****!!!

Blocking and hiding things does not help the situation, taking action does.

I still say ban the phrase... hit them where it hurts.
I didn't waste 5 minutes of my time with a letter. sorry :)
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THE WHITE PAPER! Yeah, that's what I wipe my *** with too. No ink poisoning for this guy!
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thanks to tanningdude for making me chuckle

im gonna bump this

http://tantalk.com/15001471-post20.html
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Re: Fantasy Tan Bashes UV Tanning

scumbags..maybe that's what I can do. Build a Fantasy Tan knock off that's the exact same thing just 80% off their SRP.

I'll call it BEST SPRAY TAN EVER WAY BETTER THAN FANTASY TAN THEY USE THE TEARS OF BABY DUCKLINGS TO LUBRICATE THEIR EQUIPMENT(TM)

Only $399!

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kggonline-You found it!!! I was looking but I thought it was older like a year ago. That was the funniest!!Thanks for finding it.
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20/20 hindsight their name is VERY fitting

Fantasy Tan its all a fabricated "fantasy" of a tanning system

hvlp hype in a big bundle of a compressor WHO KNEW LOL

lester is living in hiw own 'fantasy' world
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