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Old 09-23-2009, 09:51 AM   #81 (permalink)
 
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Re: Fantasy Tan Bashes UV Tanning

Wow? A sunless tanning company posting negative information on their web site about UV Tanning? I wonder if they would refuse selling one of those expensive systems to a tanning salon owner today? I know they did not have a problem with that when they first started that company? They were selling a Iwata compressor and airbrush systems that cost $350 at best and a couple of gallons of solutions to salons for $5000 and up, I know many people who purchased them and those salons helped get them where they are today.
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Megatanman did you have your coffee yet? Those two scenarios are not even REMOTELY the same.
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Wow? A sunless tanning company posting negative information on their web site about UV Tanning? I wonder if they would refuse selling one of those expensive systems to a tanning salon owner today? I know they did not have a problem with that when they first started that company? They were selling a Iwata compressor and airbrush systems that cost $350 at best and a couple of gallons of solutions to salons for $5000 and up, I know many people who purchased them and those salons helped get them where they are today.
Thank you, some owners haven't been around long enough to weed out the unethical companyies. :)
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Megatanman did you have your coffee yet? Those two scenarios are not even REMOTELY the same.
Uh..yes they are,your just a bit too conservative to realize it.

Both parties are utilizing credible sources to defend their findings.
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These are not opinions formed by Fantasy Tan.
First you say this...

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We believe that the information from these published sources is factual, and that neither Fantasy Tan, nor the public,has been misled by them. We feel these sources are credible.
Then you say this...

Your belief AND opinion is in your statement above. In those very words the conclusion will be made that you are NOT a part of the tanning industry.
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Uh..yes they are,your just a bit too conservative to realize it.

Both parties are utilizing credible sources to defend their findings.

You really don't get it. I do not bash non-uv to sell uv. Just show me how I am doing to my clients what Lester is doing to his? Exactly how did I stab my own clients in the back after taking their money? Wow Mega and you can take your politics BACK to the Saywhat forum so I don't have to weed through your bull.
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Re: Fantasy Tan Bashes UV Tanning

Anyone of us could find documentation from a reputable third party source to back up almost any opinion.

Sunless would not be around today,if tanning salon owners 10 years ago, did not take a big risk and put Mystics and Mist-Ons in our salons. It was not just putting the booths in, but also all the time and $ in promotions, marketing/advertising.

Fantasy Tan would not exist without tanning salons.
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Re: Fantasy Tan Bashes UV Tanning

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You are absolutely correct! That company has made a very good living marketing to tanning salon owners for almost 10 years. And it sounds like that have forgotten where they came from? And forgot the old adage dont bite the hand that feeds you
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You really don't get it. I do not bash non-uv to sell uv. Just show me how I am doing to my clients what Lester is doing to his? Exactly how did I stab my own clients in the back after taking their money? Wow Mega and you can take your politics BACK to the Saywhat forum so I don't have to weed through your bull.
Its called competition and its part of capitalism.I DO NOT agree with the comments he made,but he is just taking advantage of information that is freely available.He did not manifest these accusations himself.

If you think companies like Infinity Sun,Mystic,Magic,Versaspa and the like are not pumping money into negative ad campaigning against U.V tanning,your sadly mistaken.They are just not public about it.

If your going to ban someone like fantasy tan,you should consider banning all sunless from the boards,because they are all guilty of bashing the tanning industry,some just choose not to expose themselves.

This is not about politics,its about marketing.
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Re: Fantasy Tan Bashes UV Tanning

And here's the big problem. Lester knows that a large percentage of sun salons also offer sunless as an alternative. So he knows the majority of you won't bash Sunless in your salon to get back at these people. The sunless industry has positioned themselves to co-exist like a parasite.

Because of that though, they are also on the receiving end of this sunscare message. GMA had derms saying spray sunless is hazardous and not FDA approved. So there...
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