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Old 09-17-2009, 06:57 PM   #41 (permalink)
 
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Re: Fantasy Tan Bashes UV Tanning

Spray tanning would not exist if the salons did not take the initial plunge to plug the crap out of it.

Salons laid the ground work- only to be dropped on our a**? Nope!
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Dr. Mist if Fantasy Tan is such a great product why do they need to post misleading information about professional tanning salons? Why does Infinity Sun act in such an unbelievably professional manner compared to Fantasy Tan and get all the bigs names using her product?
The difference is in business ethics, Veronique Munro holds her company to much higher standards and that's why I enjoy doing business with her so much.
Huh?

Veronique has done the exact same thing in the past on her website by posting UV bashing articles and a link to a radio interview of her bashing UV tanning while promoting her product.

I will have to did through my archives to dig that back up. Thanks for the reminder.
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Huh?

Veronique has done the exact same thing in the past on her website by posting UV bashing articles and a link to a radio interview of her bashing UV tanning while promoting her product.

I will have to did through my archives to dig that back up. Thanks for the reminder.
Yes do find that for me. When she first came here she said she would work with salons and always has as long as I have done business with her.
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Well the radio link is gone now. Her website was changed due to the a$$ chewing I gave her on it a couple of years ago.

I chewed on Mystic for the same thing and now I'm chewing on Fantasy Tan.

This company will change their marketing too. The bashing needs to stop.

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Nope, it won't stop. They've got a rep in all the mags about being "the safe alternative". It's their whole business plan. Get em!!
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Well the radio link is gone now. Her website was changed due to the a$$ chewing I gave her on it a couple of years ago.

I chewed on Mystic for the same thing and now I'm chewing on Fantasy Tan.

This company will change their marketing too. The bashing needs to stop.
When I bought her system close to two years ago we chatted about what was on her site. She changed it the same night. I see that as being receptive to professional salon owners.
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Re: Fantasy Tan Bashes UV Tanning

I found this in a Word document I had saved.

Here is a partial transcript. She has since changed her marketing and did apologize about her strategy. She first became a sponsor across the street and I found the discrepancies in her advertising by clicking her banner. In all fairness she did change her website due to my outing her in a thread. This was just over two years ago.

The radio link is gone but this was the transcript of the portion that I had a problem with. Veronique has made good on her advertising strategy and that was good enough for me.

Here are some of the articles and the partial transcript:

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Veronique Munro, CEO of Infinity Sun and celebrity spray tanning guru has been spray tanning celebrities all week before the show to deliver that all-natural, golden brown tan that will be gracing the orange carpet. Miss Munro states “it is always our pleasure to participate in these events. This is such an important show for children, knowing that their opinions count. But as a company, it is our mission to deliver the message to today’s youth that they need not jeopardize the health of their skin to have a beautiful and natural-looking sun kissed glow”. The 2006 Kids Choice awards broadcasts live April 1st 8pm EST Read the rest of this release, go to http://www.prweb.com/releases/2006/3/prweb366670.htm

Published: Apr. 04, 2006 - 08:00AM PDT



http://www.fvnewswire.com/print.aspx?rid=34295


June 23, 2006, 12:00 AM EST
Beverly Hills,CA (FV NewsWire) - No time or money for a tropical vacation? No worries! Infinity Sun, a favorite among Jessica Alba and many other celebrities, is a new way to get that gorgeous sun-kissed bronze glow in three minutes.

It's now possible to look like you've spent endless days lounging in the sun (without damaging your skin) - Wild Clover Day Spa offers the most innovative experience in UV-free tanning, which can be enjoyed without the risks associated with more conventional methods of tanning..


http://www.healthradio.net/component...emid,99999999/


A close to accurate transcript between radio show host Michael Dressler (MD) and Veronique Munro (VM), CEO of Infinity Sun



MD “Sunless is much safer than tanning beds or laying in the sun”

MD “As kids, every waking moment we were in the sun,…nobody died. What’s the difference between 50 years ago and today?”

VM “well obviously there have been a lot of changes environmentally – hole in the ozone…..it’s dangerous to be out in the sun – higher incidence of skin cancer and premature aging then ever in our history”

MD – “why is that? Is it the same or didn’t we hear about it?”

VM – “actually has been the same – people in their 30’s and 40’s are the ones developing the really serious melanomas of the skin. They are much more aware of the risk, we weren’t. But added causes are increasing and accelerating these effects of the sun, that’s for sure.”


MD “Is it certain people have a propensity for cancer?”

VM “Obviously genetic propensity plays a part. However, like I said, it’s becoming much more widespread and happening to people in younger ages.”

VM – “They are also factors in addition to skin cancer – premature aging of the skin, wrinkling of skin, things they are considering when heading to the beach or putting on the swim suit or looking in the mirror and thinking they look pasty – so they don’t want to do it the conventional ways anymore:”

MD – “Is the risk the same as the tanning bed?”

VM – “There are different rays, not going to have as much of an impact if the exposure is minimum, but exposure that isn’t minimum can be higher risk”

VM – “I come at this from a different angle, I have very fair skin, almost bluish, from age 14, picked up first sunless product to ever hit the market”

VM – “So from the age of 14, that was my very first foray into sunless tanning…”

MD – “the sun has an effect – wrinkles”

VM - “we’re trying to heal the effects of the sun – be preventative

VM – “don’t expose the skin to UV rays, more than a little bit. A “little bit” is nice, because it has vitamins and that helps maintain health to a certain extent, but don’t go overboard – preventative is definitely what we recommend”.

VM – “Is there a downside to spray tanning ? If there is one, I don’t know about it and I don’t want to, because I love spray tanning !”

VM – “for people that do spray tanning , very important that they purchase a product that will keep them hydrated as well as one to do touchups in between”.



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It appears that your goal is to try to completely shut down tanning salons. These are excerpts from press releases linked on your website.

Why do you hate the sun so much? Why do you come here to try to sell your products to salon owners and then turn around and try to stick a knife in their backs?

If you cannot already tell, people in this Industry are very touchy about UV bashing. We get it from the media and Dermatologists all the time. You are like the bird in the cat’s yard right now.

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http://www.prweb.com/releases/2006/03/prweb366670.htm

I see that this link still works. I am not sure if it was able to be changed since it is not her website but it shows the mentality of UV bashing that is running rampant in this industry from manufacturers that are supposedly part of it.
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I see that Lester is watching.
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