atlantic1

Its good to hear someone is actually doing well with Mystic. Thats a rarity now. Everyone wants a Versaspa. You make more money. Also, the first Versaspa built looks just like the newest one. All you have to do is upgrade if you want a heater, voice prompt,etc. You don't have to put a new booth in. That makes a lot of sense.
I'm glad your happy but please try a Versaspa and see the real difference

Mojave Tan

We have MyMyst and customers love it! They have all tried Vera Spa, Magic Tan and old Blue Box Mystic. MyMyst doesn't compare.
Cartridges are great. No worrry about them going bad, all are date stamped when created and fresh for each customer. They also have a full line of exfoliating, hydrating and new products available for the MyMyst alone.

The salon in located in Northern California and people drive for many miles to use ours because of the consistency.

Maintenance did have its ups and downs at first. However, (KNOCK on WOOD!!!) we haven't had a problem in a year now...Woo hoo. Due to regular cleaning and high daily usage. Some days we have over 25 Mystics go through. It doesn't hesitate.
The entire bottle sprays here...not a drop left. If there is, we do a thorough cleaning and easily unplug sprayer.

AaronFries

Interesting banter concerning the MyMyst vs. VersaSpa but let me clear the air on some things people aren't mentioning. I too am a technician in Southern California, and I too am a qualified/factory certified installer for both Mystic MyMyst and The Magic Tan VersaSpa.
First I will say that both machines have advanced light years from their predacessors. Everyone remembers the Mystic MT-3000 "big blue box," but how many of you remember the old Magic Tan wall of spray nozzles and "dancing like an egyptian" to get color? Well with the Versa, you're still dancing. No biggie there, but the reason Mystic will always win in this area is the MagneTan technology. Study up on it, See it in action. You simply cannot compete with it. It works, and it's fool proof.
Design, Versa is a good looking machine, but believe it or not the Versa is a knock off of the original MyMyst 1500 open design that Mystic discontinued.
Why did Mystic discontinue?
Ethics....Responsibility to their customers... No matter what anyone tells you there is always overspray with the open design, and for those of you with open rooms with no ceilings, or with vented doors to keep your tanning beds properly ventilated, expect large bills in the future. Why? As your tanning beds cooling fans are running they are accumulating the Mist from that "open" booth, that mist is sticky and will attract dust, that dust will unbalance that big cooling fan in your $40,000.00 superbed that is potentially the showpiece of your salon, taking it out of comission until you can have it repaired, and replacing fans is not easy or cheap, parts or labor.
It won't happen right off the bat, but it will happen.
Face and legs only tanning? Cute feature, but is it really practical? I have a scenario that plays in my head when I think about owning a Versa. It plays out like this: There are three people in line at the salon. The first customer wants to do a Versa, face only, Customer #3 is new and is looking to buy a tanning package, it just so happens that customer #1 is a regular and is chatting with my attendant as she walks to the back of the salon, sets up the Versa for a face only session, finishes the conversation, and walks back to the counter. During this five minute +- interval Customer #3 walks out, frustrated about the time the attendant was away from the counter, and the lack of customer service they felt.
Now how likely is this scenario? Well you know your business and employees better than I do, but I don't think it's too much of a stretch of the imagination, and money walking out the door is not a risk I am willing to take in this economic climate, especially when I can customize a MyMyst Cartridge at the counter for the regular customer, send them on their way, and get down to the business of making money. Which is why we're all here isn't it?
Lets retouch the looks department real quick. No one seems to mention that the MyMyst decorative panels are fully customizable. If you want your salon name, logo, or a picture of your dog put on your booth they can make that happen for you. Doesn't seem like much until you see one of those salons with a big superbed in the front window, and you think "wow" I could customize my Mymyst, put it in my front window, and have a huge billboard for all these people driving by instead of advertising a bed for UWE, or Ergoline.
I also don't really care for Magics idea of having a designated attendee for the Versa, for the programming, recharging, and cleaning of the machine. I know the way employee turnover can be in this business. I want something simple enough so that if "everyone" leaves. I can make a simple phone call, and take five minutes to get someone trained. Anyone can maintenance a Mystic, especially now that they have their filterless pump and the EZ fan filter.
Another thing that I consider, is company infrastructure, there is a reason that you can't get a Versa for three months, they simply don't have the infrastructure to support their supposed growth, that means temp labor to keep up with production and potentially substandard product out the door. Which raises another question in my mind, I hear ALOT about Versa, but only know of about 3 in Southern California. Yes there are hundreds of Mystics, because they have stood the test of time, and proven themselves to me a money making piece of equipment.
I too have tossed old mystics in the trash, but they were well used. Concerning one that I threw out. I calculated (from the counter on the back multiplied my his price per session) had made the Salon owner just shy of $300,000.00 not bad for his initial $28,000.00 investment considering the machine was about 4 years old.
He too was complaining about his Mystic until I enlightened him as to just how much money he had made with it over the years.
You can get a MyMyst for less than $20,000.00 and with the incentive programs Mystic has you can spend even less.
There are alot of things I don't have to worry about with Mystic, they are the ones that started it all, they have been there, done that, made their mistakes and LEARNED from them.
The current machine doesn't have any issues.
I am also wondering why no one is mentioning the negative aspects like the "Freckeling" that Versa customers are complaining about. I have spoken with employees from Palm Beach Tan, and Desert Sun. Everyone is always Hyped on the Versa at first, until you start asking the right questions, then the ugly truth starts to surface. A Palm Beach employee told me that the freckeling she got looked like Leopard spots on her upper chest. A Desert Sun employee told me a story about a customer "reprogramming" the settings on their Versa, and no one could figure out why everyones spray was all messed up.
Why hasn't anyone mentioned that the Versas color, while initially good, it washes off after the first shower because it contains primarily cosmetic bronzers. I saw people at the Nashville show, one day they had their nice little VersaSpa V on their hip, and the next day it was gone.
I have a first generation MyMyst (the one everyone seems to be complaining about ) and will guarantee that with a premium bronze cartridge, and a bronze boost capsule My MyMyst will outperform a Versa every time. Don't believe me i'll be happy to put my money where my mouth is, and spray you for free.
Salon is U-Tan 3163 South Hoover Street. Los Angeles, CA 90007
Gimme a call (310) 697-2300 and i'll set it up.
The Additives, all upsells... More Money More Ways... Bottom Line more revenue streams, more customization, more customer satisfaction.
The Product Line... all pharmaceutical grade ingredients, those customers who use Neutrogena, and Clinique, because of sensitive skin are safe with Mystic products
Something else Mystic learned, don't limit your options. Versa like the older mystics can only do so much. Versa is limited to 3 options period.. Bronze ,clear,lotion end of story.
Mystic, with the cartridge system, has an unlimited platform, five years from now if the industry changes you don't spend another $25,000.00 for a new machine. Mystic simply creates a new $3.00 cartridge. Wanna change things up, change the decor panels, and people think you got a new machine.
HVLP verses a compressor, go price a compressor at Home Depot, then, if you can find an HVLP pump that will fit the Versa, gimme a price on that. Bottom line... All machines fail at sometime or another, do you want something you can fix with a run to your local Home Depot, or do you want your machine down for an infinite amount of time while you wait for an exotic part?
Don't like the compressor noise? Mystic has a silent compressor, the exhaust fan is literally louder than the compressor. The compressor itself is the same type used in Refrigerators, when was the last time your refrigerator compressor failed? Enough Said
As for the big boys changing, everybody likes a new car, and alot of people test drive the shiny new toy on the block, but they still depend on their "old faithful" to get them to work, and make them money every day.
When I was in the Military I learned a very important acronym K.I.S.S. the kiss principal means Keep It Simple Stupid, and that's what Mystic has done. The MyMyst is very Simplistic, by design, all parts are plug and play, look in the back of a Versa and see if you can tell me that.
As a Matter of fact while you're looking back there, if you are familiar with the old MT-3000 blue box from Mystic. Note the similarities in the electronics, you may be surprised. They say that imitation is the sincerest form of flattery...I could say more in the way of comparisons, bottom line both machines are good, both will give you color, and with one it will last like the company saysit will, and you will have limitless options, now and in the future.
I prefer to recommend what I know works, bottom line, my name and my reputation go with the products that I recommend to my customers, so I make VERY sure that I don't steer them in the wrong direction to make a quick buck. Technically I could recommend, and get a comission either machine. Just like any other tech on this site, but morally and responsibly the Versa hasn't proven itself to me yet, so I recommend the My Myst, I know the brand, I know the company, I know it will be around years from now.

Frankie

I am not here to down any company I just know what MyMyst does for me. I have tried the versaspa and sure I got color at first but it was gone once I showered. BTW I did own a Magic Tan and my customers hated it. I am sure it has changed some but the question is how much?

I don`t know about the rest of you but SCT did do installs for Mystic. He does not anymore. I think someone told me he is working for Magic Tan??

Just making funnies here but nevertheless my mystics are doing great. i love the fact we don`t have to deal with solution either. Just pop a cartridge in and they are off. We have some of our Mymyst for 3 years now and have not had to wipe down the walls yet. No over spray outside. Someone said the Versaspa goes everywhere? I don`t know I don`t own one.

socaltech

WOW what a post. I only read it because you are my good old buddy. hey when I met you I thought you would be a great salesman and yes sir I was correct. now a mystic salesperson you are doing great job.
But just a few things I'd like to comment on, the open design by versaspa came out at the same time the mymyst 1500 both introduced at the las vegas show 3yrs ago. Mystic and Versaspa were both surprised at the open design they both had engineered.
but why did Versaspa and not Mymyst keep it because it is designed to not overspray im no engineer but the vaccumm pump makes this technology work. the fan tower allows the solution to go around the customer and therefore attracts and its easy to breathe in the booth, and hardly if any solution goes outside the unit. oh all handheld airbrush units have the same vaccumm design at versaspa. similar design as your good olde carpet vaccumm just keeps everything in your home clean. my mom has one since I was a child and still goes. :)
mystic has compressor and its high volume high pressure the solution goes everywhere, the walls, components inside the nozzle tower, the rail, and it corrodes vital components, like the reed switches, motor, and plugs as well. open the door and hey salon im coming where is my closest tanning bed to embedd myself in.

The versaspa is completely programmable from your salon software. you can edit the codes on your computer so you dont have to go through the list of codes. and not even leave your desk.
no need to be a chemist to mix your solutions to get results.
one last comment you said about the mymyst "The current machine doesn't have any issues." my reponse to that is all units have issues but its the proven results and technical response of Versaspa that are turning heads all over the industry and it also received this years 2008 award for best uv free booth in the industry something mystic had previously won 6yrs in a row.
Lets just have anyone interested in purchasing a booth try them both out and see for themselves.

p.s of all the Mystics I have installed over the years I have sprayed on it maybe a handful of times. But everytime I install a Versaspa there hasnt been one time that I dont spray with it. It is such a pleasant unit to spray in I honestly want one for home use.

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bjhcpa

that post is about as stupid as they come. Nobody has dogged mystic, but ****, that post is just making up a bunch of crap. I have 7 Versaspa units including the very first one they exhibited 2 1/2 years ago directly from the show in my own stores. Never a single problem with any of them. And the original one I have has well over 8,000 sprays on it. Besides my own I Have installed 20+ other versaspa units and can honestly say i have never had to go back to service any of them.


The comments about the overspray are ridiculous. Not mine nor any other versaspa salons i have been in have an overspray problem. I have been in some mystic salons that I have been in awe that their solution is 3 rooms deep on the equipment.

Customers cannot just change the settings on the booth and the freckling thing I have never heard of happening and I dont think Palm Beach has either as they are ordering more booths.

when a multi-million dollar chain "test drives a shiny new toy" and then immediately proceeds to yank out 70 mystic and mymyst booths all within a few months is hardly relying on "old faithful"

As for the great name mystic, you would be surprised how many calls we get asking "do you have spraytanning" and when we say "yes" the response is "its not a mystic is it"

I also owned the old magictan booths at one time. They is absolutely no comparison. Any bad experience with the original magictan booths cannot be carried over to the versaspa, it is a completely different design.

Im not knocking mymyst as I dont know enough about it and have only sprayed it a few times and im sure their are plenty of people doing well with them.

And since when is an HVLP pump an exotic part?

Like many have said, go try them both and decide for yourself.

CrystalSS

One comment on the "speckles." When that happens it is time to clean the sprayer nozzles. We make it routine to do that weekly and it is a non-issue. I tell anyone that sprays with the "added" bronzer that it is just "instant gratification" and showers off the next day. It is so they can walk out with added instant color (many want color now) but the tan still develops under the bronzer. We have never had a single user have the actual color shower off only the "instant color" bronzer. If it did come off the face it was because they sprayed with make-up on. In fact, with the prep spray my color remains up to 7 days. I think there are pros and cons to everything and everyone is different in what they like and use. I personally am pleased with my Versa Spa and for having booths for years I finally find I am at almost zero customer unsatisfied spray on's...that is worth more to me than anything. Best Wishes to all in 2009!

breezy

Oh my gosh! I own a MyMyst and that freak-in thing ROCKS! In fact I just acquired another salon that has the mystic's Innovation, great unit but I'll be selling it and installing the MyMyst there to.

atlantic1

Its simple try them both and see for your self. Also, something else to look out for. I challenge you to see how many used Versaspas are on the market today and how many used My Mists are. Also, why has the Mystic people all of a sudden lowered their prices so low? Is it because people are buying the Versaspas and not the Mystic? Or, was Mystic just charging too much for a booth that has nowhere near the technology the Versaspa does.

Boutiquechic

I LOVE Versa Spa! I religiously go once a week to a salon across town. I wish I could have it for my grand opening, but it's out of my budget. I'll definitely get a unit once I start earning revenue!!