LOTION SCARED - tanTALK

ekc123 · 11-13-2007, 08:21 AM

Hi all,

with all the latest news about AG, SB and DS joining forces, cutting distributors and raising salon costs on lotions, with quality on the down slope, what is your strategies on what to carry. In my area $50 bucks is about max for most customers, usually 30-40. I have never been a fan of SB or AG and do not carry those lines. DS has been my best seller for years, but I do not see the results from their products as in the past. Recommend me some lines to try before the season gets going. I am going to work on getting DS out of my customers heads because I do not intend to pay ridiculous prices for it. My customers think it is "cute" to order off the internet and also shop and the beauty supply. I know I am going to cut my stock by half this year so I dont get stuck marking it all down in june and july to get rid of it.

caribbean tan man · 11-13-2007, 08:49 AM

www.devotedcreations.com

ekc123 · 11-13-2007, 09:08 AM

yeah, i carried devoted two years ago when u could not get it on the internet, but now u can, so I only sell Golden Grace and Trinity out of that line, just for repeat buyers that do not shop on the internet. thanks for the reply

caribbean tan man · 11-13-2007, 09:15 AM

everything is online even the guaranteed not to be tanology was found online. Devoted is barely online some days i search ebay and cant even find it.

if you find a lotion worth carrying that is not online let me know.

ekc123 · 11-13-2007, 09:26 AM

my rep told me that after this upcoming season, he will not be carrying DS anymore, mainly because of quality decline (and I do agree), I just want quality products that my customers will be happy with that isnt $100 dollars a bottle. when it comes to that, Walmart and Sallys will ruin it for us all. I have used the expensive stuff, but not $100 impressed. I think the worst is when u sell them high end stuff and they are ready to rebuy, they tell u it was okay, but they wont spend that much again, they did not see the results they were expecting. I know I feel the same way about some products I carried this past season, mostly DS.

caribbean tan man · 11-13-2007, 09:32 AM

quality is the reason i choose Devoted. diversion is always going to be around in some form or another. unfortunatley you really cant base your decision on diversion anymore because its all diverted if you look hard enough. if it aint diverted its crap. demand creates diversion.

u need to come up with a way to counter diversion in your salon.
free tans with lotion
discounts when bought with a tanning package
pass on disty discounts

PS any disty that isnt carrying DS due to quality is BS. Does that disty sell AG?

dcjjp2 · 11-13-2007, 09:46 AM

Alot of distys will only see the AG giant as they are being pressured to do so. I am still carrying Cal Tan this year as the products are good and the name recognition is really good in the industry.

ekc123 · 11-13-2007, 09:46 AM

no AG or SB. We are going to do some specials with free tanning. really though, I want some feed back on other brands that have good results. A lot of feed back I read is on DS, AG and SB and I want to cut back and try some new. I belive packaging has a lot to do with it too. especially for the younger crowd. What about TI, Fiesta, Satori. I like cal tan, but their good stuff is more than most of my customers are willing to pay. It seems like the more they pay, the longer the bottle lasts. I sold someone a bottle of Intrigue for $60 on sale and she has tanned for three months with a 10 oz bottle, and she tans a lot. I tried to tell her how much she should use, but u know how that goes.

caribbean tan man · 11-13-2007, 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ekc123

no AG or SB.

this is the reason your disty is no longer carrying DS. AG bought DS

A line i like is waheki Gold its made by Fiesta sun for TW Tan. its their private label i guess. the bottles look exactly like Fiestas Leather and lace and the New on Need 4 speed

MSRP Prices range from $20-$34 I sell them at $25-45 easily

morgan-977 · 11-13-2007, 10:46 AM

just got this flyer in the mail- go to threewishestan.com to here the voice mail of a distributer calling salon owners stupid.

11-13-2007, 08:21 AM	#1 (permalink)
ekc123 Join Date: Nov 4 2007 Location: georgia Posts: 292 Rep Power: 17	LOTION SCARED Hi all, with all the latest news about AG, SB and DS joining forces, cutting distributors and raising salon costs on lotions, with quality on the down slope, what is your strategies on what to carry. In my area $50 bucks is about max for most customers, usually 30-40. I have never been a fan of SB or AG and do not carry those lines. DS has been my best seller for years, but I do not see the results from their products as in the past. Recommend me some lines to try before the season gets going. I am going to work on getting DS out of my customers heads because I do not intend to pay ridiculous prices for it. My customers think it is "cute" to order off the internet and also shop and the beauty supply. I know I am going to cut my stock by half this year so I dont get stuck marking it all down in june and july to get rid of it.

11-13-2007, 08:49 AM	#2 (permalink)
caribbean tan man DERFTALK FBI AGENT Join Date: Jul 29 2003 Location: northeast Age: 48 Posts: 3,632 Rep Power: 46	Re: LOTION SCARED www.devotedcreations.com __________________ someone PM me when a good tanning topic is posted. :lol:

11-13-2007, 09:08 AM	#3 (permalink)
ekc123 Join Date: Nov 4 2007 Location: georgia Posts: 292 Rep Power: 17	Re: LOTION SCARED yeah, i carried devoted two years ago when u could not get it on the internet, but now u can, so I only sell Golden Grace and Trinity out of that line, just for repeat buyers that do not shop on the internet. thanks for the reply

11-13-2007, 09:15 AM	#4 (permalink)
caribbean tan man DERFTALK FBI AGENT Join Date: Jul 29 2003 Location: northeast Age: 48 Posts: 3,632 Rep Power: 46	Re: LOTION SCARED everything is online even the guaranteed not to be tanology was found online. Devoted is barely online some days i search ebay and cant even find it. if you find a lotion worth carrying that is not online let me know. __________________ someone PM me when a good tanning topic is posted. :lol:

11-13-2007, 09:26 AM	#5 (permalink)
ekc123 Join Date: Nov 4 2007 Location: georgia Posts: 292 Rep Power: 17	Re: LOTION SCARED my rep told me that after this upcoming season, he will not be carrying DS anymore, mainly because of quality decline (and I do agree), I just want quality products that my customers will be happy with that isnt $100 dollars a bottle. when it comes to that, Walmart and Sallys will ruin it for us all. I have used the expensive stuff, but not $100 impressed. I think the worst is when u sell them high end stuff and they are ready to rebuy, they tell u it was okay, but they wont spend that much again, they did not see the results they were expecting. I know I feel the same way about some products I carried this past season, mostly DS.

11-13-2007, 09:32 AM	#6 (permalink)
caribbean tan man DERFTALK FBI AGENT Join Date: Jul 29 2003 Location: northeast Age: 48 Posts: 3,632 Rep Power: 46	Re: LOTION SCARED quality is the reason i choose Devoted. diversion is always going to be around in some form or another. unfortunatley you really cant base your decision on diversion anymore because its all diverted if you look hard enough. if it aint diverted its crap. demand creates diversion. u need to come up with a way to counter diversion in your salon. free tans with lotion discounts when bought with a tanning package pass on disty discounts PS any disty that isnt carrying DS due to quality is BS. Does that disty sell AG? __________________ someone PM me when a good tanning topic is posted. :lol:

11-13-2007, 09:46 AM	#7 (permalink)
dcjjp2 I love Derf!! Join Date: Jul 12 2004 Location: Va Posts: 3,228 Rep Power: 28	Re: LOTION SCARED Alot of distys will only see the AG giant as they are being pressured to do so. I am still carrying Cal Tan this year as the products are good and the name recognition is really good in the industry. __________________ Jeff

11-13-2007, 09:46 AM	#8 (permalink)
ekc123 Join Date: Nov 4 2007 Location: georgia Posts: 292 Rep Power: 17	Re: LOTION SCARED no AG or SB. We are going to do some specials with free tanning. really though, I want some feed back on other brands that have good results. A lot of feed back I read is on DS, AG and SB and I want to cut back and try some new. I belive packaging has a lot to do with it too. especially for the younger crowd. What about TI, Fiesta, Satori. I like cal tan, but their good stuff is more than most of my customers are willing to pay. It seems like the more they pay, the longer the bottle lasts. I sold someone a bottle of Intrigue for $60 on sale and she has tanned for three months with a 10 oz bottle, and she tans a lot. I tried to tell her how much she should use, but u know how that goes.

11-13-2007, 10:46 AM	#10 (permalink)
morgan-977 Join Date: Oct 28 2005 Posts: 25 Rep Power: 0	Re: LOTION SCARED just got this flyer in the mail- go to threewishestan.com to here the voice mail of a distributer calling salon owners stupid. Last edited by morgan-977; 11-13-2007 at 10:56 AM.

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