aloe vera based vs water based lotions - tanTALK

Island girl · 01-24-2007, 05:32 PM

I checked the search forum and couldn't find anything........... What is the deal with these two lotions? I had a customer that wanted Matahari because its not water-based.... What should have been my comeback? Never heard it before.

Neon Beach · 01-24-2007, 05:44 PM

She may have wanted the aloe vera for it's added qualities.

Silas Stingy · 01-24-2007, 05:45 PM

Thickness and speed of absorbsion. Aloe based lotions are not always "aloe leaf juice" but powered aloe that's mixed with water.

Also, a water based lotion will absorb faster which results in working faster.

Some people hear some keyword and think that's the "be all end all" which it isn't.

rawdogoddess · 01-24-2007, 09:24 PM

I thought that lotions with the first ingredient being aloe is higher quality than when it is based with water? Possiably I was missinformed. I thought that I read that in my Tanology manual.
Am I wrong?

Shantilly · 01-24-2007, 11:13 PM

You are right rawgoddess, if aloe is the first ingrediant there is more of that. If the first ingrediant is water or aqua, it is water based. Lower end lotions are water based.

Soakinuptherays · 01-25-2007, 07:30 AM

GSK Products are Aloe Vera based but have some of the lowest salon prices because I sell direct to salons and do not have profits built in for distributors in my salon cost.

rawdogoddess · 01-25-2007, 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shantilly

You are right rawgoddess, if aloe is the first ingrediant there is more of that. If the first ingrediant is water or aqua, it is water based. Lower end lotions are water based.

Okay, good! That is what I have been telling my girls. We were going thru all our lotions the other day and going oh, this one is water, etc. Just for the **** of it.

Island girl · 01-25-2007, 10:41 AM

You guys can take this for whatever its worth, but I just talked to Tom at Breeze products and he explained all of this to me. Just because the lotion lists water as the first ingredient doesn't mean it is water based. If the 2 or 3 rd ingredient is aloe anything, it is aloe based. They have to have the water listed because they mix it with the aloe powder or gel to make the lotion. Tom said the FDA requires water listed first. Its a new law that went into effect in 2002, but there are companies that have "grandfathered" their lotions in. Just about every lotion on my shelf starts with water, but the second ing is aloe gel. Just FYI.

Silas Stingy · 01-25-2007, 11:05 AM

Bottom line is that it doesn't matter what is in the bottle of tanning lotion it's if the stuff even stable long enough to work. (a HEM breeze and your reformulations of double cold and hot fudge that lasts as long as WEENIE TOTS on a good day)

Some of the best tanning lotions I've used have ALCOHOL listed as a top ingredient so it's CLEARLY all about the overall product and nothing to do with what's first in line on a label.

Neon Beach · 01-25-2007, 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Island girl

You guys can take this for whatever its worth, but I just talked to Tom at Breeze products and he explained all of this to me. Just because the lotion lists water as the first ingredient doesn't mean it is water based. If the 2 or 3 rd ingredient is aloe anything, it is aloe based. They have to have the water listed because they mix it with the aloe powder or gel to make the lotion. Tom said the FDA requires water listed first. Its a new law that went into effect in 2002, but there are companies that have "grandfathered" their lotions in. Just about every lotion on my shelf starts with water, but the second ing is aloe gel. Just FYI.

Really?

01-24-2007, 05:32 PM	#1 (permalink)
Island girl Join Date: Dec 18 2005 Location: Missouri Posts: 324 Rep Power: 19	aloe vera based vs water based lotions I checked the search forum and couldn't find anything........... What is the deal with these two lotions? I had a customer that wanted Matahari because its not water-based.... What should have been my comeback? Never heard it before.

01-24-2007, 05:44 PM	#2 (permalink)
Neon Beach Join Date: Nov 30 2000 Location: Ontario Age: 61 Posts: 38,594 Rep Power: 107	Re: aloe vera based vs water based lotions She may have wanted the aloe vera for it's added qualities. __________________ www.talktimmins.com -- http://www.drjawnswebworx.com/

01-24-2007, 05:45 PM	#3 (permalink)
Silas Stingy Join Date: Jul 14 2006 Posts: 228 Rep Power: 18	Re: aloe vera based vs water based lotions Thickness and speed of absorbsion. Aloe based lotions are not always "aloe leaf juice" but powered aloe that's mixed with water. Also, a water based lotion will absorb faster which results in working faster. Some people hear some keyword and think that's the "be all end all" which it isn't. __________________ only if it's on sale

01-24-2007, 09:24 PM	#4 (permalink)
rawdogoddess Join Date: Jun 10 2006 Location: Fort St John, BC Posts: 116 Rep Power: 18	Re: aloe vera based vs water based lotions I thought that lotions with the first ingredient being aloe is higher quality than when it is based with water? Possiably I was missinformed. I thought that I read that in my Tanology manual. Am I wrong? __________________

01-24-2007, 11:13 PM	#5 (permalink)
Shantilly Who The **** is Derf? Join Date: Oct 28 2001 Location: Ontario Posts: 757 Rep Power: 27	Re: aloe vera based vs water based lotions You are right rawgoddess, if aloe is the first ingrediant there is more of that. If the first ingrediant is water or aqua, it is water based. Lower end lotions are water based.

01-25-2007, 07:30 AM	#6 (permalink)
Soakinuptherays I love Derf!! Join Date: Oct 19 2000 Location: Tampa, Florida Posts: 1,160 Rep Power: 24	Re: aloe vera based vs water based lotions GSK Products are Aloe Vera based but have some of the lowest salon prices because I sell direct to salons and do not have profits built in for distributors in my salon cost. __________________ Greg Klesius GSK Resources

01-25-2007, 10:41 AM	#8 (permalink)
Island girl Join Date: Dec 18 2005 Location: Missouri Posts: 324 Rep Power: 19	Re: aloe vera based vs water based lotions You guys can take this for whatever its worth, but I just talked to Tom at Breeze products and he explained all of this to me. Just because the lotion lists water as the first ingredient doesn't mean it is water based. If the 2 or 3 rd ingredient is aloe anything, it is aloe based. They have to have the water listed because they mix it with the aloe powder or gel to make the lotion. Tom said the FDA requires water listed first. Its a new law that went into effect in 2002, but there are companies that have "grandfathered" their lotions in. Just about every lotion on my shelf starts with water, but the second ing is aloe gel. Just FYI.

01-25-2007, 11:05 AM	#9 (permalink)
Silas Stingy Join Date: Jul 14 2006 Posts: 228 Rep Power: 18	Re: aloe vera based vs water based lotions Bottom line is that it doesn't matter what is in the bottle of tanning lotion it's if the stuff even stable long enough to work. (a HEM breeze and your reformulations of double cold and hot fudge that lasts as long as WEENIE TOTS on a good day) Some of the best tanning lotions I've used have ALCOHOL listed as a top ingredient so it's CLEARLY all about the overall product and nothing to do with what's first in line on a label. __________________ only if it's on sale

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