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12-08-2006, 01:32 PM | #1 (permalink) |
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Rep Power: 21 | UVA/UVB what mix offers the best protection? I understand the relationship between what induces more melanin production and oxidization. But is there evidence that a higher uvb unit that more closely resembles the sun during the intense part of the day will provide more protection for someone going on a sunny vacation. Or does it matter as long as your melanin is stimulated enough to turn you brown. |
12-08-2006, 05:49 PM | #2 (permalink) |
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Rep Power: 25 | Re: UVA/UVB what mix offers the best protection? If by "protection", you mean from burning, then it is the combination of both: 1. UVA oxides the existing melanin, providing a natural "SPF" factor of around 4 2. UVB stimulates more melanin production, which can then be oxidized, which can then provide more "natural" SPF. An italian who tans easily and doesn't tan at ALL prior to hitting the sun will be able to stay outside longer than a fair skinned Swede. A fair skinned Swede who gets a GOOD base before vacation MAY be able to stay outside longer than the untanned Italian. A tanned Italian will be better off than both. And ALL of them should use additional SPF if they intend to stay out longer than what the natural protection of an SPF 4 might give them. Getting a base tan prior to being outdoors is added "insurance" against staying out a little longer than you should have, missing a spot with your SPF lotion, not reapplying soon enough, etc. MOST people, when they have the opporunity to be around nice weather (especially on a vacation), tend to want to stay out longer than they "naturally" could, so tanning and use of SPF help protect them against their otherwise bad judgment! :) |
12-09-2006, 02:32 PM | #3 (permalink) |
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Rep Power: 21 | Re: UVA/UVB what mix offers the best protection? I understand the uva/uvb stuff. I keep hearing "go in the low end bed before you go to a Hawaii because it will provide better protection". I say it's not true - I think HP will provide the same level of spf through melanin production. |
12-17-2006, 10:38 PM | #4 (permalink) |
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Rep Power: 0 | Re: UVA/UVB what mix offers the best protection? I know this is a bit late, but....several years ago we had a client who was very dark. He came in our salon and wanted our best bed (which at the time was a Cyberdome). this was before we had any high pressure beds. He laid in the cyberdome and burned pretty badly. He had been laying in High Pressure only before and had not been getting the UVB. |
12-18-2006, 06:35 AM | #5 (permalink) |
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Rep Power: 103 | Re: UVA/UVB what mix offers the best protection? And, low pressure beds provide more UVB, thus more vitamin D production.
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12-18-2006, 06:36 AM | #6 (permalink) |
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Rep Power: 103 | Re: UVA/UVB what mix offers the best protection? Oops, did I just make a medical claim for a tanning bed??????
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12-18-2006, 09:54 AM | #7 (permalink) |
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Rep Power: 28 | Re: UVA/UVB what mix offers the best protection? I always tell clients preparing for a vacation (tropical type) to use the level one beds and before they leave get a few upgrade sessions and have never had anyone ever tell me that they burned on vacation.
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12-18-2006, 10:12 AM | #8 (permalink) |
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Rep Power: 0 | Re: UVA/UVB what mix offers the best protection? although high pressure are on average 10 X the strength of a basic bed and can produce the same quality tan if not better in a much shorter time they will not provide the same protection. You could have a clieant tan in your high pressure bed for 6 weeks straight, getting as dark as they possible could and they could still burn in a 20 min sess. in a reg. bed. Although a tan from a high pressure bed will provide some protection outside it will not provide as much protection as a reg bed with 5 or 6% UVB will. My recomendation would be to by a bottle of Bullfrog SPF 30 and for outside and stick with the high pressure. |
12-18-2006, 12:06 PM | #9 (permalink) |
I love Derf!! Join Date: Apr 13 2004 Location: West Coast Age: 57
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Rep Power: 21 | Re: UVA/UVB what mix offers the best protection? Good info. But I was under the impression it was the melanin produced that creates the protection. If you turn brown you must be producing melanin. Perhaps it has to do with thickining the skin? certan, you say that more uvb will be better protection because it is more like actual sun. That sounds right but what is the science behind it? |
12-18-2006, 01:52 PM | #10 (permalink) |
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Rep Power: 0 | Re: UVA/UVB what mix offers the best protection? UV light inneracting with melanin is what produces the darkening of the skin. In the tanning process UVA tans the skin and UVB burns the skin but UVB is also the skins prime source for melanin production. In most cases the 1% - 2% UVB is enough for melanin production in the skin but for some people its not. It stands to reason that if your tanning in a bed that produces 5 - 6% UVB similar to what you might get outside, then your skin would build up a little bit of a tolerance to that amount of UVB but in the case of the High Pressure bed your tolerance to the burning ray (UVB) is only from 1-2% (much lower than you would receive outside. |
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