navigatin1

My eyes my eyes!!!!!

MATT A

Clever Lady

Neon Beach

[quote]C. Regarding the performance, safety, benefits, or efficacy of such product or service,
unless, at the time of making such representation, respondents possess and rely upon competent and reliable scientific evidence that substantiates the representation.
[quote] Hmmmm? Let's be sure that any reports presented in favour of the tanning industry don't contain words like "believe", "might", "could", "maybe", etc..

navigatin1

Ok, I'm on board with that.

DWhite6872

Please...thats what you came up with after that thread? Are we all on the same side? How can we make a difference if we cannot agree on anything....or excuse me...maybe we can...and I happen to actually listen to Neon...crazy....step away from the computer...now!

Sheila in Minnesota

Back from Dairy Queen!!!!

I was wondering if one of my favorite Mods would take the last few posts documenting Anti-Tan's hobby... and move it to the Terri Fransen Thread {pretty please }

(thank you G ~ ya gotta love a lover!)

Neon Beach

Quote:
On 2005-06-24 19:39:00, Neon Beach wrote:
Quote:C. Regarding the performance, safety, benefits, or efficacy of such product or service,
unless, at the time of making such representation, respondents possess and rely upon competent and reliable scientific evidence that substantiates the representation.
Hmmmm? Let's be sure that any reports presented in favour of the tanning industry don't contain words like "believe", "might", "could", "maybe", etc..

Neon Beach

Read some of the positive stuff that has been published lately, lots of terms such as "seems to indicate", "may prevent", "could show signs of preventing". Just wanted to point that out. May not have relevance to any of you , but it should. Especially if the courts are involved. The public may tend to pass over those terms though. Carry on.

jedgarhoover

The disparity between the scope of the disclosure and its rationale suggests that its primary purpose is more consistent with corrective advertising than with an affirmative disclosure. The purpose of corrective advertising is to dispel false beliefs in the public mind created or reinforced by a challenged ad that are likely to endure (and thus to influence purchase decisions) even after the ad stops running.

The Anti-Sun Establishment should dispel their false beliefs in the public mind. Maybe the rulings would be different. It is not the 90's any more and here is proof.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A26176-2005Jan21.html


A Neglected Nutrient
Are Americans Dying From a Lack of Vitamin D?

By Joan Raymond and Jerry Adler
Newsweek
Monday, January 24, 2005; 12:44 PM

Of all the medical orthodoxies of recent years, few were as ironclad as the prohibition against sunbathing. In a triumph of public education, the notion of a "healthy tan" was turned on its head, as conditions ranging from wrinkles to cataracts, immune-system problems and skin cancers, including deadly malignant melanoma, were linked to ultraviolet exposure. But in the last decade or so researchers have begun asking whether something was lost in the process: the often-overlooked substance that occurs naturally in some foods, especially fish, but is most efficiently produced in the body by exposure to sunlight--vitamin D.

It is best known as an essential nutrient for calcium uptake; rickets, a childhood disease that deforms bones, was largely vanquished decades ago by adding vitamin D to milk. But vitamin D may be just as important at the other end of life, where a deficiency has been associated with osteoporosis, rheumatoid arthritis and certain cancers. And studies show that even among otherwise healthy young adults, vitamin D deficiency is endemic--especially in northern latitudes at the end of the winter, when the body has used up what it made and stored during the sunny months. It's a particular problem for dark-skinned Americans, whose protective pigmentation evolved for life near the equator. "I don't like to overstate things," says Dr. Robert Heaney, a vitamin D researcher at Creighton University, "but I think we may find that vitamin D deficiency is a public-health crisis.



The FTC alleged that certain advertisements and promotional materials for California Tan Heliotherapy products made false and/or unsubstantiated claims, expressly or by implication, that tanning as a result of exposure to sunlight or indoor UV radiation:

reduces the risk of certain cancers;

has cardiovascular benefits, such as lowering blood pressure and serum cholesterol or providing the benefits of exercise;

is an effective treatment for Seasonal Affective Disorder and AIDS;

enhances the immune system; and

reduces the risk of bone disorders for members of the general population.
In addition, according to the FTC's complaint, the advertising and promotional materials made false and/or unsubstantiated claims, expressly or by implication, that:

the negative effects of exposure to sunlight or indoor UV radiation, including skin cancer and premature skin aging, are caused only by burning and overexposure and not moderate exposure and tanning;

tanning as a result of exposure to sunlight or indoor UV radiation is not harmful to the skin;

use of the products prevents or minimizes the negative effects of exposure to sunlight and UV radiation, including skin cancer and premature skin aging;

the MAXIMIZER products help users achieve up to 42% better tanning results; and

the products that contain VITATAN improve users' ability to tan by up to 67%.
Finally, the complaint charges that advertising and promotional materials falsely represented, expressly or by implication, that scientific studies demonstrate that exposure to sunlight or indoor UV radiation provides the health benefits stated above and that the American Medical Association endorses exposure to sunlight or indoor UV as a medical treatment.

Effective treatment for Aids?? This is going a little far with what a lotion can do though-- don't you think? They also made AMA claims--that was going to make waves. I have a hard time believeing Ray of Light does anything but tan--much less make you "appear" to have lost weight so the cancer/aids thing had to go.

BUT! It's a new day. There is more research suggesting we need some sunshine--that's why we don't live under ground. What is the most effective way for those of us who care to accomplish that? Something simple and benign or Balls to the Wall? I love Sheila--that girl loves to fight the good fight but maybe everyone could meet in the middle?

Neon Beach

That's fine, but again, the article you posted is full of "maybes", I personally don't believe that these terms are the best evidence to fring to a Court of Law. I do however agree with this:

Quote:The purpose of corrective advertising is to dispel false beliefs in the public mind created or reinforced by a challenged ad that are likely to endure (and thus to influence purchase decisions) even after the ad stops running. It's a shame the influence purchases part is there, but that is ultimately what we are looking at by trying to spread the word regarding the positive effects of UV exposure.