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Old 09-10-2003, 05:23 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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I work in nuclear power plants and also own tanning salons. Its very simple to answer questions about skin cancer and tanning. heres what I say number 1 its a controled enviorment. when you in the sun you loose track of time and can burn and a burn doesn't turn into a tan. and there in some risk in know matter what you do. like me I get radiation but its controlled on how much I am Allowed. the goverment needs to stay out of the industry look at how they operate and everytime I seen them regulating a state its just wrong they don't have the knowlege that professional salon owners do.
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oh on top of that the strip mall were lease in is owned buy the hospital and we have alot of doctors that tan and say the samething that tanning in a controlled enviroment is better.
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Old 09-19-2003, 12:34 AM   #3 (permalink)
 
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ufffffdah!!

While I agree that many in the field of Political Agendas and the Science of UV {regulating to death the small business operator and blocking the services we provide to our clients}.... I can firmly attest to the fact that there are VERY few 'professional salon owners' with the ability or the morals to Play the Game SAFE.

Tanning in Natural or artifical sunlight is not only a cosmetic fix.

Until this industry gets off it's scared *** and starts promoting the HEALTH BENEFITS OF MODERATE EXPOSURES (and I could give a poopooless if it's indoors or outdoors) . . we will always be the butt of the Medical and Science communities Union Dinner jokes.

It is NOT a matter of losing track of time in the natural sunlite - - but rather poor habits, and irresponsible behaviors that lead to over exposures. Over Exposures can and do happen in 'professional salons' cause you have yahoos that are AFRAID to tell the client "no" ~ and take the time to educate their white asses.

For what ever reason humans CHOOSE to tan - they should be able to get SOLID - FACTUAL advice from their physicians and their tanning salon staff.

I too have many people in the medical community that tan with me - and send me their patients... but not one is willing to stand up to those facts with the MMA.

You might not like the fact that the STATES want to regulate our business..... but there are minimum acceptable levels of service that are NOT met in many salons across the nation.

Until there is one solid voice that will give a REBUTTAL to the smacks against Indoor Tanning - - your best bet is to GET EDUCATED on the FACTS of UVL..... the GOOD, the BAD and the UGLY.... and TEACH your clients the same.

State Regulators are not 'stupid people'..... they have a game plan - - they utilize certain OTHER groups to give THEM information to review so that THEY CAN make decisions....

It is our job to see that they GET FACTS from this industry to balance their game plans with.... and we won't get there by laying below the radar screen.

Guess Who's Crabby Today???
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Guess Who's Crabby Today?
I'll take a guess, but what do I win?
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Old 09-19-2003, 08:31 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Sheila makes some very good points.

Every state should be regulated & enforced!(to an extent- no need to be overdone!)

The bad press the Industry gets is from over-exposure at salons with uneducated staff!

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"YOU win a Date with Crusty Yoco"

John - you are in Ohio..... this state recently went thru some very publicized Regulation Issues... it appears that this has had a Positive Effect on (1) getting indoor tanning more recognition AS professional facilities - (2) Numbers of 'new tanners' seems to be still growing (3) with a STANDARD of practice~ all salons need to follow ~ I would imagine there is less 'WOW EM WITH 'B'urns(??)

But BS regs and the screwy attempts to LINK indoor tanning with 'addictive behaviors' such as Smoking - Drinking and quite possibly listening to Heavy Metal tunes ~ . . .

Sure... we know that UVL should NOT be linked to Chemical addictions for the kiddies - or even blamed for Marilyn Manson - . . . but when THAT is the ONLY MESSAGE getting played over and over and over and over again.... we will be forever doomed with the resultant spread of ignornace

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So would you say that the hunger for shorter sessions would mean we are getting closer to "HEALTH BENEFITS OF MODERATE EXPOSURES" or futher away with the new generation of tanning beds?
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Not at all Mike.....

The "hunger" is a by-product of Hype.... FASTER~QUICKER~DARKER~ NOW!!!

We are fairly certain that as a species - most normal people don't require 4 hours of intense sunlight to achieve the medical benefits of UV exposures.... nor do people require a SUPER BED that gives that amount of color in that short a time frame.

Unless I am confused with your question - - (and I am not playing with the full deck today)... I think that SHORTER sessions with only A Ray are useless for the Health Benefits.... we NEED 'B' ray.... but we don't need such a immense amount that the only outcome is a BURN. and I don't feel the new HPs are adding the little bit o'B for health reasons.... {shhhhhhh but I think they are beginning to see that without melanin secretions {stimulated by B ray} there is jackschite to brown}

Maybe it is just at my shop - - - but I have very few hungering for SHORTER exposure times.... the 20 Minutes is the Quickie Vacation that anyone can afford - and often NEED.

Moderate or Responsible use of UV is different for everyone based on their skin type and their health history, drug use and skin condition.... what is excessive for me - is NOT for someone else...

So - I would not agree that shorter sessions benefit everyone - - and certainly do not agree that HP provides enough of what makes a tanning session health wise.

But I got the headach from **** today - - - I may need to have my editor review this for Sanity Issues.
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It’s noble of you to focus on the health benefits of tanning but I think for the most part it falls on deaf ears.

By the way did you not know that tanning can make a headach to go away....now go get in a tanning bed!
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It needs to be SHARED in order for it to FALL on any ears Mike.

It is the reason I found indoor tanning..... I was sent to this industry by a family physciain that was not all jammed up with worries about the Minn. Medical Assoc.s stance on UV..... an MD that understood my NEED for more UV Light to function in this frozen waste land...

I KNOW that for many of my clients (35-40 %) the cosmetic colour is a secondary issue for their use of my salon..... for a Vanity Driven Industry - that is a large percentage that could really care less about 'TAN Appearce'.....

If all you do is claim it makes you look sexy - you could do just as well selling poopoo for Fredericks of Hollywood.....

But the REAL NEED for REAL FACTS to the GENERAL PUBLIC (and not just to us) is what keeps our businesses victim to seasonal usage, and open for public flaming with bullcrap studies - year after year after year.....

I am NOT pushing aspirins here Mike.....

READ the data..... Understand how the body needs to function on ALL levels to remain healthy ....

Believe in the GOOD of your SERVICES darnit!



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