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JOHN @ URI

Both beds are excellent HP units & both have a very good track record in the US. We can not compare these as apples to apples, it's more apples to oranges.
The Magic 636 is 36,000 watts & 100 amps.
The Matrix L33 ER is 18,000 watts & 53 amps.

Of course with 18000 watts more of power it is going to read much higher on a UV meter. (that's double)This is just a stupid comparison & sales tactic. How much does electric cost in Cali nowadays?
How much more A/C will you need to cool the salon?

There is absolutely no doubt that both units will tan very well & both demand top dollars for a session. Just need to look at all the facts & find which unit fits your needs, space, & power requirements.

sunsally

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John, you are totally right about the power. The Matrix has 18,000 watts and the Magic has 36,000 watts. The Magic should be putting out a lot more than the Matrix and if that was it's total advantage, that would be good but not great. For me, the by far biggest advantage the Magic has, is the adjustiblity of the lamps. I know people get tired of hearing this but it is a fact.

When the Matrix' lamps have lost 25% of their output, they are reading somewhere in the 55-60 range, the Magic will put out in the 130 range for 1000 hours or more. When the start to fade to around 110, they get replaced. Let's just say that I spend all of the money that I save on lamps on the extra electricty and it is a wash. The difference is
that when customers that come into the salon that have used HP beds before, after they use the Magic, chances are they are not going back to the other beds.

Here are the beds that I have around me at 1 of my salons within 3 miles: Sunboard, Velocity, and 2 Matrix that are about 300' apart from each other. My choices were to put in a HP bed that performs much like the other HP beds do. If I did, I would be right there with them and they wouldn't be any better than me. We could even start a club of the pretty good HP bed salon owners. I didn't want to be a member of that club.I wanted to be the only member of a club. The top performing HP bed salon club and that is what I did. I have converted a lot of these salon's customers to mine using the Magic and I am going to convert a lot more.

So, if you have some lower level HP bed around you, maybe the Matrix is all you need. If you have some of the higher performence HP beds around you and I consider the Matrix to be in the top 3 or 4 HP beds, then to seperate yourself from the rest, you may need the Magic. Remember, a Chevy or a Mercedes will get you to the same place, it is just how do you want to get there. I forgot to mention one thing, the salon with the Sunboard sells it for $8 a pop. Kind of tells you what it is worth.

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JOHN @ URI

I agree that the Magic does get a nice lamp life, but even 1000 hrs is pushing it. I tell people 800 max, after that you get too much heat out of the lamp which can stress other parts of the bed. The ease of adjustability is truely an advantage, the Matrix has taps you can adjust also, but only 3. The new Matrix ER version will get a good 500-600 hrs depending on salon between lamp changes.

The top HP beds in no particular order are Matrix, Magic, Mastersun & Ergo 1050. All are very different & offer different options, but will, in the end give pretty similar results. (I did not mention the Loenardo because it is fairly new to the market & don't have a lot of info, if it's anything like the Saturn I'm sure it will catch on fast.)

Look for ISO Italia to introduce some newer control systems in the future, which are completely electronic, including the ballast. They have been testing for about 1.5 years in Italy. Should be introduced around Nashville in a few of the units & possibly ready for the US by early Spring 2009.

Brian Oshman

Actually, the plasma arc of a stick, mig, or tig welder emmits UV and that is where the burn comes from. It is just like an unfiltered HP lamp not to mention it has no quartz envelope.

And the Magic will p.iss all over the other beds mentioned in this thread. It is not the prettiest of the bunch but the best performer and once set up properly has virtually no problems not to mention that the lamp life reaches 1000-1200 hours if properly cooled. None of the others can touch that.

You can run the spent lamps in the Magic that are reading 95-100 mw/cm² A+B and they will still out tan all of the others with fresh lamps.

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royalsun

Actually both infrared and ultraviolet are emmited. Both spectrums contribute to "welders flash". Your right about the Magic! If your panel can handle 100 amps its a hands down winner! Last I looked all of the above mentioned HP's are 360's, priced competitively, but only 1 smokes all others even with 1000 hours on the lamps

eileen

Here's my question... if you can get the "other" beds lamps for half the price new compared to the magic.....does that justify the magic lamps lasting 1000 hours? Not being defensive here just curious. :)

Also because of having so much success with ISO Italia I would be very interested in the new beds with electronic upgrades from them in the fall.

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under-exposure to uv rays is as dangerous as over-exposure...This is "D" life! (eileen)

eileen

as far as saying it tans better that doesn't really work for me I'm not trying to be darker I already am and I really don't want to tan less....I enjoy my 10 minutes of total relaxation a week. I would love to tan 15 minutes but I don't like getting that dark.

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Brian Oshman

Cheap lamps are just that, cheap. It is just a stupid decision to put cheap lamps in your top tier units. They won't perform, won't last, and just make more work for you having to pull them out in a couple hundedred hours. Consider how much of a b.itch it is to change wire leads. (not hard but time consuming)

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