Magic 636 vs Tan America L33 - Page 2

HOT STUFF · 03-19-2008, 11:30 AM

If I remember correctly, it is in the 2-3 grand range.

HOT STUFF · 03-19-2008, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by TomorrowSun

They will both do fantastic for you. The L33 will use less power than the Magic will.

Come on Rob, that is the best you have to say about the Matrix, it will use less power. That is a glowing endorsement. I promise you that you will not turn to dust if you say something nice about the Magic. Well maybe you will.

HOT STUFF · 03-19-2008, 11:41 AM

Eileen, how many hours do you get on a set of lamps?

TomorrowSun · 03-19-2008, 11:45 AM

I have tanned in both. The magic does give a better brown color as I was a little red from the higher UVB in the matrix. The matrix tan was pretty good too, just not as good as the magic. I like the looks of the matrix better, but they both will give you the "wow" look you need in your salon.

If I had a choice, I would pick the Mastersun instead.

HOT STUFF · 03-19-2008, 11:46 AM

There you go. That was not that hard. I am proud of you. You get a scooby treat.

That is what I don't understand about the Matrix. Everyone says that the Matrix is around 1.7% uvb but that it is a higher uvb bed. My friend tells me that he can't out a new tanner in for 9 or 10 minutes their first tan because he will burn them. The Magic has 1.6% uvb with mug6 glass but I can put all but the very fairest in for 9 or 10 minutes and I have never burned someone.

eileen · 03-19-2008, 01:11 PM

I believe ours were well over 600 hours when we relamped it (my son takes care of the hour logs). We hadn't noticed any drop off in tanning power but wanted to get the new conversion kit in before the busy season. I think the matrix is about $1,300 to relamp.

royalsun · 03-19-2008, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by eileen

It performs because it never needs service, it runs day in and day out for 2.5 years with no issues....it paid for itself quickly, and customers love it. This is why I call it a performer. It's very attractive, lots of wow factor. Can you point out to me where I said it was better then the Magic..... I didn't. I am only giving advice to salon owners or potential salon owners from my own experience as a salon owner and not a bed salesman or distributor, I speak in my opinion only and will continue to. ;)

You didn't say the Magic was better I did. Here is why; it far out performs a Matrix, meters do not lie. They measure uva output in milliwatts per cm squared. That is quantifiable. At 900 hours you will get around 145 mils. A Matrix will put out 80-85 mils with brand new bulbs. At 450-500 hours you shiit can the bulbs in your Matrix because your readings will tank exponentially after 500 hours.
You will pay more up front for a Magic but considering you get 2x the lamp longevity the extra cost is quickly recooperated. As per lamp costs the Matrix consists of 27/620 watt hp's and 6/1000 watt hp's, retail cost approximately $2800. The Magic 636 prior to 2005 consists of 30/1000 watts, retailing at around $2900. So lamp costs are consistant. The difference is at 900 hours you will have changed the lamps in your anemic performing Matrix 2x so you have twice the lamp costs and at the same time you have approximately 2/3's the output. This isn't opinion but it is fact!

HOT STUFF · 03-19-2008, 04:05 PM

Royal, don't forget the the 2006 and up Magic has 3-2000 watt facials.

HOT STUFF · 03-19-2008, 04:14 PM

So can anybody answer the uvb question on the Matrix? The Matrix puts out 75 with uvb at 1.7%. The Magic puts out 130 with uvb at 1.6% with the mug6 glass.
It would seem that the Magic would be the one that you have to be careful with but it is the Matrix. Why is that?

eileen · 03-19-2008, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by royalsun

You didn't say the Magic was better I did. Here is why; it far out performs a Matrix, meters do not lie. They measure uva output in milliwatts per cm squared. That is quantifiable. At 900 hours you will get around 145 mils. A Matrix will put out 80-85 mils with brand new bulbs. At 450-500 hours you shiit can the bulbs in your Matrix because your readings will tank exponentially after 500 hours.
You will pay more up front for a Magic but considering you get 2x the lamp longevity the extra cost is quickly recooperated. As per lamp costs the Matrix consists of 27/620 watt hp's and 6/1000 watt hp's, retail cost approximately $2800. The Magic 636 prior to 2005 consists of 30/1000 watts, retailing at around $2900. So lamp costs are consistant. The difference is at 900 hours you will have changed the lamps in your anemic performing Matrix 2x so you have twice the lamp costs and at the same time you have approximately 2/3's the output. This isn't opinion but it is fact!

That's a heck of a lot higher then what Future Industris and URI sells lamps for!

03-19-2008, 11:30 AM	#11 (permalink)
HOT STUFF Join Date: Jan 5 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 709 Rep Power: 5	Re: Magic 636 vs Tan America L33 If I remember correctly, it is in the 2-3 grand range. __________________ ______________________

03-19-2008, 11:41 AM	#13 (permalink)
HOT STUFF Join Date: Jan 5 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 709 Rep Power: 5	Re: Magic 636 vs Tan America L33 Eileen, how many hours do you get on a set of lamps? __________________ ______________________

03-19-2008, 11:45 AM	#14 (permalink)
TomorrowSun I love Derf!! Join Date: Apr 5 2006 Location: British Columbia Age: 35 Posts: 541 Rep Power: 3	Re: Magic 636 vs Tan America L33 I have tanned in both. The magic does give a better brown color as I was a little red from the higher UVB in the matrix. The matrix tan was pretty good too, just not as good as the magic. I like the looks of the matrix better, but they both will give you the "wow" look you need in your salon. If I had a choice, I would pick the Mastersun instead. __________________ www.islcovetravel.com

03-19-2008, 11:46 AM	#15 (permalink)
HOT STUFF Join Date: Jan 5 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 709 Rep Power: 5	Re: Magic 636 vs Tan America L33 There you go. That was not that hard. I am proud of you. You get a scooby treat. That is what I don't understand about the Matrix. Everyone says that the Matrix is around 1.7% uvb but that it is a higher uvb bed. My friend tells me that he can't out a new tanner in for 9 or 10 minutes their first tan because he will burn them. The Magic has 1.6% uvb with mug6 glass but I can put all but the very fairest in for 9 or 10 minutes and I have never burned someone. __________________ ______________________ Last edited by HOT STUFF; 03-19-2008 at 11:53 AM.

03-19-2008, 01:11 PM	#16 (permalink)
eileen kiss me I'm Derf Join Date: Feb 10 2005 Posts: 6,825 Rep Power: 17	Re: Magic 636 vs Tan America L33 I believe ours were well over 600 hours when we relamped it (my son takes care of the hour logs). We hadn't noticed any drop off in tanning power but wanted to get the new conversion kit in before the busy season. I think the matrix is about $1,300 to relamp. __________________ under-exposure to uv rays is as dangerous as over-exposure...This is "D" life! (eileen)

03-19-2008, 04:05 PM	#18 (permalink)
HOT STUFF Join Date: Jan 5 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 709 Rep Power: 5	Re: Magic 636 vs Tan America L33 Royal, don't forget the the 2006 and up Magic has 3-2000 watt facials. __________________ ______________________

03-19-2008, 04:14 PM	#19 (permalink)
HOT STUFF Join Date: Jan 5 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 709 Rep Power: 5	Re: Magic 636 vs Tan America L33 So can anybody answer the uvb question on the Matrix? The Matrix puts out 75 with uvb at 1.7%. The Magic puts out 130 with uvb at 1.6% with the mug6 glass. It would seem that the Magic would be the one that you have to be careful with but it is the Matrix. Why is that? __________________ ______________________

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