eileen

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engfant

It's FAR from a BMF. Didn't the POWER FOR YOU use the spaghetti lamps between the facials?

What a joke. ANYONE with a clue and EYES can see that such a small lamp will NEVER WORK FROM THAT DISTANCE.

Another winner idea from the company that loves to dupe the industry with nonsense technology.

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nlabtec

43.3 on a Solarmeter 5.0? I hope to **** not. That's a disgrace for this kind of tanning bed.

I get that out of my Ovation.

Also, what kind of VOODOO are they dealing with to get longer hours out of LOW PRESSURE TUBE LAMPS? You can't keep turning up the ballast and get more life out of them like a HIGH PRESSURE lamp.


With the new EU regulations the power has to be lower. I guess you didnt read the post or something. I do not know the U.S. reading for I only metered the EU one. Plus that reading like I said also was with someone in it and when let me get around to right places to meter it. Plus the bed didnt even have 200watts light I thing they were more 160's or 180's.

I dont like Ergoline but there beds tanned me very well out at Solaria and I was very impressed with there beds.

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sunsally

Power For You was UWE - not Ergoline.

Can't read through the other stuff posted other than to conclude that Renaissance and Engfant don't care for Ergoline. To each their own. There are MAJOR salon owners with SIZEABLE operations making the CHOICE to put this equipment in their salons.

But hey --what do they know? No clue, no eyes and just being duped and "******" into buying lamps from the manuf. Guess the way they got so successful was being this dumb and dumping money into someone else's pockets.

Carry on

engfant

Yeah, I know who makes the PFY. This bed design is a failure from 10years ago...that ERGOLINE is now copying in their TOP bed.

Also, Ms Sun, please explain to us that clearly have no clue HOW you have a ballast that can be adjusted to get more output from a FLUORESCENT LAMP???

This is not something that can be accomplished with the average FLUORESCENT LAMP. They must be using some sort of new technology like some of the compact fluorescent lamps use in something like a dimmer switch. From what I know (which may not be much but) if you do not match the ballast to the lamp, there is a loss of output OR there is a loss of life OR BOTH.

Seeing that Ergoline more known for beds that DON'T produce than do, I'm not sure what they are trying to accomplish here.

Also, there is nothing better than staring at a little UVB lamp with torched lamp ends in a $50K ride. Talk about classy.

I don't "hate" Ergoline, but like everything that doesn't make a lick of sense I'm just looking for some clarity here.

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Renaissance

To me, YES, it is dumping unecessary dollars into someone elses pockets.... But I guess from their perspective it's a good idea. I think it just makes them look bad (IMO). It is all a SQUEEZE!!!!! WAKE UP EVERYONE!!!!...... This B.S. is totally not necessary..... HUGE STEP BACK.....

I also currently have an ERGOLINE Classic 650 and this bed tans like a mother.... Why would the best bed ever made by Ergoline be discontinued. Now what they should do is recreate the 650.... It does not chew through lamps at all, facials last for about a SOLID 350 hours as do the low pressure lamps.

Now as the equipment becomes newer and newer, we are constantly changing out lamps faster than ever. I can't be the only one that sees this. All this B.S. about overpowering lamps... using 160 watt lamps powered 200 watt ballsts. DESIGN THE EQUIPMENT TO SUIT THE APPLICATIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!

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solarmeter

That has nothing whatsoever to do with 5.0 meter readings.... which are primarily UVA. The new EU beds have more UVA and less UVB.

The EU 0.30 W/m² max dose rate "rule" has everything to do with 7.0 meter readings... Ery weighted irradiance. Except it takes the stupid MED definition confusion out of the equation. A MED in USA vs EU vs AU is a completely different dose... all for the same skin type 2. Don't get me started on that.

Solartech had to "invent" yet another meter model (7.5) just for the EU regulation. It measures W/m² Eeff (Ery) directly: no conversions from MED or UVI needed. They are starting to sell like hotcakes over there now. Will be on www.solarmeter.com website by end of this week... and are in our new Nov IST ad fyi.

We just love confusing people with so many different kinds of UV meters. Too bad UV isn't simple... too many bandwidths all producing different biological effects. Aaaarrrrrgh. It takes an eggplant to understand it all lol. Fortunately the new 7.5 meter is NOT needed here in the USA..... yet.

Brian Oshman

This makes no difference on output. Most all big beds are built this way too. Keep in mind with the 5.0 is that it is extremely directional and has no real peripheral vision. It sees straight on whereas the light will bounce around all over.

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I meant to say that having the air flows in the canopy will result in less UV rays hitting your body as opposed to having a canopy like the Sun Gate, with no air flows in the middle, creating a uniform wall of lamps with no breaks. Resulting in having a few more rays hitting you in the mid-section where people see the most colour....

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