unity

Lets not forget, SPF rating is NOT strength, its a measure of time.

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megatanman

But that time can vary due to exposure to moisture(sweat,swimming)

DB Hottie

So, is it fair to say that if your body can regulate heat and cool itself better, you will not get burned?

I'm not sure that I am understanding the correlation between heat and developing a tan.

Does heat mean oxygen?

engfant

I think we are missing the point here.

A BURN IS NOT A SIGN OF ANYTHING OTHER THAN YOUR BODY REACTING TO THE SUN. IT CAUSES PAIN AND YOU REACT BY GETTING OUT OF THE SUN.

If you are getting the same amount of UV and your body DOESN'T react to it, is it still getting a BURN? YES IT IS in my experiment cause the "fall out" is still there. The flaking of the skin.

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DB Hottie

I see what you are saying.

You may not have gotten burned, but you still had negative reaction to the UV exposure.

engfant

yes. If it still leads to the "unwanted side effects" then what's the point?

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unity

Of course if you body is more adapted to regulate heat, it will cool and this not burn. A burn is a burn whether its from heat, the sun, etc.

I tell this to my customers all the time. What do you do when you burn your finger while cooking? You IMMEDIATELY put it under cold water. If you feel your skin is hot, even it has not show signs of a "burn yet, get in the shower and set it to a comfortable but cool temp. Then every minute, turn up the cold a little more until you are used to it. Keep turning up the cold as often as you can and do so for about 20 minutes. Just like a finger burn, the KEY to reducing the RESIDUAL damage caused by the heat that is resident in the skin is to pull it out! If you dont cool the finger = blister. Same with a sunburn on the rest of the body.

Everyone usually goes "Oh ya, duh!".

But do people do that with a sunburn or excess heat build up in the skin? Usually not.

And yes, heat can caused the skin to increase circulation and thus oxygen flow. Thats why after a workout a person can appear a little red in the face. This is also a great time to go tanning, right after a work out!

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unity

Exactly.

You dont have to heat up milk to make it spoil. :)

The best salvation for skin is to keep is cool.

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DB Hottie

"There are MANY factors that add up to tolerating the Sun. One big one is heat. Your skin needs to get used to heat in a way that is can better regulate its cooling ability."

Heat is heat, correct me if I'm wrong (I know you will)-

Increase heat>increase circulation>increase oxygen>increase tan>

could mean increase burn/adverse effects.

unity

You are correct. Which is what "tingle" products do, in a way. They mimic the effect of increased heat and cause increased circulation. Also, as anyone who has used tingle for a long time, they get used to it to the point where it will have little to no reddening and heat effect - the body has gotten used to it - adapted if you will.

A burn is when you EXCEED the body's ability to cool the skin. Its like putting a radiator on a car that is too small for the engine then taking it racing. It may be fine at idle, but under stress it can not keep up and damage occurs.

But like Engfant and I have said, heat is one factor. IR can still "cook" the skin in cool conditions where the skin can cool sufficiently. Think Snow burn. However, those who go skiing generally have little no base to begin with then spend 6 hours on the slopes.

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