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Old 08-01-2007, 04:15 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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The Elephant in the Living Room?

The Elephant In The Living Room Is Still Being Ignored
Useful article detailing the obvious fact that if the dermatologists were right and all we needed was 15mins outdoor exposure twice weekly we would all be vitamin d replete.

The fact is (and it's about the same in the USA/CANADA that in the UK most adults are vitamin D insufficient MOST of the time. If the medics and dermatologists had got the RDA Vitamin D3 correct or their recommendations for adequate sun exposure were realistic then we would NOT be in the position of having 60% of the population being below 75nmol/L throughout the Summer.

As Eileen keeps pointing out we need a status of over 100nmol/L for all systems that need Vitamin D to work properly and a level of over 125nmol/L to protect from cancer.

If we used 125 as the base level then it would be hard to find anyone in the UK with optimal Vitamin d status.
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Old 08-02-2007, 01:49 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: The Elephant in the Living Room?

Great post Ted! And that's absolutely right - most people in western cultures do not get an adequate amount of sun eposure on a regular basis to promote healthy levels of Vit D in the body - and so many overdo their sun exposure in infrequent, and random sessions that they end up burning themselves. All thanks to what I just refer to now as "The Message from the Establishment" in major media.

The really sad part of all of this is that a relatively small percentage of medical professionlas actually espouse this viewpoint. Yet, it's the major message people are bombarded with, falsely coming from "The Medical Professionals". Of course the average consumer is going to believe it when they see it on TV and read it in their magazines. And they end up doing exactly what "The Establishment" wants them to do - buy sun stuff! Sun screens, moisturizers, anti-aging creams, and sessions with their dermatologist. Number one way to motivate a person to do something? Scare them. And then offer them the solution and profit.
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Re: The Elephant in the Living Room?

The incontrovertible benefits of UVR-induced vitamin D are (without question) important but they are (IMHO) secondary to the primary benefit of sensible, moderate and responsible exposure to UVR, ideally in the controlled and consistent environment found in an indoor tannng salon.

These "primary" benefits, i.e., the increase in TUVR (tolerance to UVR) and concurrent decrease in SUVR (sensitivity to UVR) will be covered in the October issue of Looking Fit magazine. This article - for the first time - will show how (a) different skin types/subtypes and (b) different tan levels affect the TUVR/SUVR relationship. This article will provide you with "numbers" showing how TUVR/SUVR changes as the tan gets darker for each skin type/subtype. [Note: It helps (me at least) to consider TUVR and SUVR as two sides of the same coin. As the TUVR increases (as the tan develops), the SUVR decreases and (conversely) as the TUVR decreases (and the tan fades) the SUVR increases. Thus, the "ideal" way to protect your skin is to maintain a tan year-round.]

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Re: The Elephant in the Living Room?

The fact that there have been no comments regarding the post above confirms my "growing suspicion" that we (the indoor tanning industry) have gotten the cart ahead of the horse, i.e., we have (collectively) decided that vitamin D is our "salvation" and have forgotten/overlooked/don't know that the "controlled" development of photo-protective facultative pigmentation (better known as a "tan") is our "true strength" as an industry and what we should be focusing our promotional efforts on.

The development of photo-protective facultative pigmentation in the controlled and consistent environment of an indoor tanning salon is the primary benefit (IMHO) we are selling and "feeling good" and "looking good" and vitamin D stimulation are important secondary benefits.

Have we lost our way?
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Re: The Elephant in the Living Room?

Don are you saying building up tolerance to UVR and decreasing sensitivity has more health benefits then vitamin d from tanning does? I'm a little confused. :)
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Re: The Elephant in the Living Room?

I think he means that a lot more customers tan to build up a tolerance to UVR to protect themselves from burning, than to get vitamin D benefits.

For example, compare how many people come in to get a base tan before a vacation, vs. those that come in to get some vitamin D. I'll bet it's about 100 to 1, if that, maybe 1000 to 1.
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Re: The Elephant in the Living Room?

thanks tanfixr :) I used to be one of the 80% or so of potential clients that didn't use a tanning salon before finding out about vitamin d. We can keep the 20% client base we have now and keep them happy but I still want to go after the other 80% we're not reaching at all because of health concerns and the anti-tanning bashing by the media.

I do agree it's probably 1000 to 1 but in the last 2 weeks I had 3 new clients in saying their Dr. sent them for vitamin d normalcy. That's more then I had in 3 months. I didn't get to speak with the new clients I'm thinking maybe it's the same Dr. sending them.
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Re: The Elephant in the Living Room?

I have seen the same lately also Eileen. One of my most painful clients (only did Mystic for years) came in looking for lack of a better term, BLACK. I asked her what was going on, and her DR had recommended to her that she get into the sun for Vitamin D and also told her that during the fall/winter months she should do moderate tanning.

I almost wanted to kiss her (this is big, because I despise her!) But, what is funny is that even her demeanor has changed. It was kinda creepy.
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Re: The Elephant in the Living Room?

Eileen:

Stan is correct. We seem to have forgotten that a photo-protective tan is our "birthright" and the reason most people patronize us.

That does not mean that vitamin D isn't important - especially in the future - but simply that it may be wise to talk about the benefits of facultative pigmentation first and then talk about the secondary benefits of vitamin D, looking good and feeling good.

We have (IMHO) let the derm's convince the public that a tan only provides minimal protection when the facts (and our common sense) tells us otherwise. A base tan does provide protection!

The "bottom line" is that an individual who keeps a tan year-round gets the benefits of protecting his/her skin from UVR overexposure AND gets the "freebie" of helping to maintain an optimal level of vitamin D. As I see it, that is a "win-win" situation.

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Re: The Elephant in the Living Room?

Using both to promote tanning!!! The thing that get me is we always go on defence about what the derms say........................we should always be on the offence........Go after the derms.....shoot, how do they make their money........scare the public to get them in the door.....we should do the same........tanning is beneficial.......In door tanning is the best way to control our suntans!!!;)
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